Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: ltlee1@hotmail.com (ltlee1) Newsgroups: soc.culture.china Subject: Re: Russia says U.S. relations are on brink of collapse Re: On Ukraine: Mearsheimer and Dugin Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:47:15 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <39761efa8c96a2e946bab8b60ffa507a@www.novabbs.com> References: <8b2f15196088a44c0a6e84ee2ce326a7@www.novabbs.com> <6a92665a9e920bd471b3a9c0f0ae7bb8@www.novabbs.com> <6ea7cd0b4496c430cf00df26a429b7e0@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3636108"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="pxsmGrN7Y7mF0hfJcY//7F6kiWqDRq/tZN4FOOcim3s"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: 0099cdd7dc5bd7b25c488bf8bcfab81a117b2ffc X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$.j1vbyafDiCyPHuMRpKdcu6lw0rBcXIW3MyM382dW64Pp/TDUM15u X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Russian spin: " Trump-Puttin summit agenda: Accepting US peace plan would end Ukraine conflict on Moscow's terms Trump to accept Putin's terms for Ukraine because Xi Jinping is coming to Moscow Xi Jinping accepted Vladimir Putin's invitation to Moscow for Victory Day. If they form a military alliance, Ukraine is not going to be the only loss for Trump. ... Key Takeaways Negotiations are ongoing, but the phrase "appropriate time” suggests there is no consensus yet; The Kyiv regime is in a position of "do as you're told,” since Trump did not consult Zelensky before speaking with Putin; Trump's disclosure of the talks suggests he is trying to cover up a weak negotiating position. Putin Won't Accept a Temporary Compromise on Ukraine Based on the nature of the discussions, it appears that Putin seeks a peace settlement that includes the demilitarization and "denazification” of Ukraine, along with recognition of the current territorial realities. Trump, on the other hand, is reportedly offering only temporary measures: a ceasefire and recognition of Russia's control over "occupied territories” without further concessions. Additionally, Putin may be pushing Trump to renegotiate the global order. The only real leverage against Russia would be pressuring China and India to stop buying Russian oil, or persuading Saudi Arabia to lower oil prices by increasing production. However, Saudi Arabia has actually raised oil prices and is not eager to cut its revenues, while businesses in China and India continue to find ways to purchase Russian oil. Time is not on Trump's side, as Russia cannot be defeated in a war of attrition due to its historical resilience and ability to mobilize resources." https://english.pravda.ru/world/161655-trump-putin-xi-jinping/