Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: mpsilvertone@yahoo.com (HarryLime) Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems Subject: Re: The Return of Michael Monkey Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:56:45 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <3cafb20269a45df1b62373fcbbafc741@www.novabbs.com> References: <0a2e99524c82074bf4dd559138058599@www.novabbs.com> <39d33897812027c2aea255a41561fac6@www.novabbs.com> <7fdab725e16b3fd102c81b4fe3806ce9@www.novabbs.com> <2c898f8bc382ec1d2d525fab8ff24eb7@www.novabbs.com> <3ce090895c693a4e27b49c23e38626b5@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2682094"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="9yNNWN6S3jCL2bQghupeZ7yt9QQF3aIiWb2guQimaIw"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$I88aNWbIxFX0lIK6SwOzVODvhkK7nJ6v5TZheYPgkSSeUvJaYv8Wy X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: e04a750cbe04de725ce24a46bcc3953c76236e3b On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:42:27 +0000, W.Dockery wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 16:23:17 +0000, HarryLime wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 22:31:52 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:34:01 +0000, HarryLime wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 14:12:25 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 13:03:55 +0000, HarryLime wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 12:28:29 +0000, Will-Dockery wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> MummyChunk wrote: >> >>>>>>> Again, why do you lie and misrepresent so much, monkey boy Michael >>>>>>>> Pendragon? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just curious. >> >>>>>>> Why is he called "monkey boy"??? > > > It seems that the origin stories vary. > >>>>>>> It might come from the Pink Floyd Animals album, Lord of the Flies or >>>>>>> George >>>>>>> Orwell's Animal Farm, or possibly a mashup of all three. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm known as donkey, Pendleton is the monkey, Peter J. Ross was called >>>>>>> Piggy >>>>>>> (although PJR has been gone from the newsgroup for a couple of years >>>>>>> now). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think George Dance has always just been referred to as "Dunce" >>>>>>> though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's the basics as I remember them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a response to the post seen at: >>>>>>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=680817254#680817254 >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, Donkey, this is the story of how "Monkey" and "Donkey" came >>>>>> about: >>>>>> >>>>>> Since you've brought me back for one more day, Donkey, I'll answer your >>>>>> question here (and in the pointless duplicate thread you've created to >>>>>> ask it again it), as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> The origin of "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with Gary Gamble. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary Gamble had left the group long before my arrival here. And as far >>>>>> as I know, I have never interacted with him. >>>>>> >>>>>> In fact, "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with anything said at AAPC. >>>>>> >>>>>> I live in a very small house that was built in the 1920s. I like to >>>>>> think of it as a rustic cottage or a cozy bungalow. In order to expand >>>>>> the living space, one of the previous owners finished the basement, and >>>>>> turned it into a combination kitchen, dining room and bar. I keep my >>>>>> computer down there, so when I'm online, I'm technically in the >>>>>> basement. >>>>>> >>>>>> About seven years ago (give or take), my wife sent our youngest child >>>>>> downstairs to see what I was doing. He looked over my shoulder while I >>>>>> was posting something to Usenet AAPC, and shouted up to her "He's >>>>>> talking to Will Donkey the computer." >>>>>> >>>>>> Since the idea of someone conversing with a donkey on computer is funny, >>>>>> it immediately became a running joke in our house. "Daddy's talking to >>>>>> Will Donkey again," etc). >>>>>> >>>>>> Since stubbornness is one of your strongest characteristics, I >>>>>> immediately began addressing you as "Will Donkey" in AAPC as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Monkey," otoh, came about when Karen Tellefsen wrote a satirical poem >>>>>> about our endless flame war here, set to the tune of "Pop Goes the >>>>>> Weasel." "Pop Goes the Weasel," in case you're unfamiliar with it, is a >>>>>> nursery rhyme about a monkey chasing a weasel around a cobbler's bench. >>>>>> In her poem, she replaced "Weasel" with "Donkey" (signifying you, as I >>>>>> had already started calling you "Will Donkey" at that time). She >>>>>> retained "Monkey" from the original because I often posted under my >>>>>> backup account here as "Coco DeSockmonkey." >>>>> >>>>> I remember Coco. >>>>> >>>>>> You and George immediately started calling me "Michael Monkey" as a >>>>>> result. >>>>> >>>>> No, I almost always have called you Michael Pendragon, choosing to take >>>>> the high road and not dink to your low level of childish insults and >>>>> name calling. >>>> >>>> You've been calling me a "Little Green Monkey" for the past week or so, >>> >>> Tit for Tat, look it up. >> >> No kidding, Pee-wee. >> >> It just counteracts your claim that you "almost always have called (me) >> Michael Pendragon." >> >>>>>> There ypu have it: "Will Donkey" came from my son's misreading of your >>>>>> name on my monitor, and "Michael Monkey" came from Karen's satirical >>>>>> poem. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> That sounds about right except the animal name calling really goes back >>>>> to earlier times. >>>> >>>> Mummy Chunks asked you where the "Monkey Boy" name came from -- not when >>>> calling people by childish animal names began. >>> >>> Well, we should start at where it all begins, never mind that you second >>> handed the idea, Pendragon. >> >> >> MummyChunk didn't ask when the childish name-calling began. They asked >> about the origin of "Monkey Boy." >> >> We should start by answering the actual question that was asked. >> >> -- > > Okay, fair enough, let's do that. I did. --