Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Justisaur Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Oh, Randy (Borderlands 4 edition) Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 06:27:45 -0700 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <84546514669194fccfb98c38c01bfdd1714b406f@i2pn2.org> References: <1f5q2klhv6dkvp8run8f29lpbkqtbs3thi@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 13:27:45 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1306715"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="Qhe2PUx7m0g9bYSXAivnRF/BNu0vlRR08ycHrj9WPKg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: <1f5q2klhv6dkvp8run8f29lpbkqtbs3thi@4ax.com> On 5/20/2025 5:15 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote: > > I've said it before, but I grudgingly agree that video games probably > should be priced more.* The $60USD 'standard price' for AAA games is > historically low if you take inflation into account, even as the games > themselves are becoming ever more larger and more complex.** > > But at the same time, the public at large is --especially now-- > extremely sensitive to price hikes, and video games are unnecessary > luxuries that many think they can cut back on purchasing. So this > trend of jacking up the price to $80USD isn't going down well at all > with most customers. > > So when Gearbox recently announced that the soon-to-be-released > "Borderlands 4" was going to ship at the higher price point, there was > a wee bit of pushback. Fortunately, wiser heads at Gearbox prevailed, > and they spun a clever marketing campaign convincing potential > customers why this increase was well worth it, given all the new > benefits gamers would get from the new game, and all was well in the > world. > > No, hahaha, of course none of that happened. Instead a "I'm the > smartest boy in the room" CEO --good old 'I don't know why I have > Lolita pix on that thumb drive I carry' around Randy Pitchford-- > opened his mouth and made everything worse again. Said he regarding > players unhappy with having to pay the higher price: "If you're a real > fan, you'll find a way to make it happen."*** > > Oh, Randy... no. No, no, no. What the hell is wrong with you? > > Aside from the arrogance of somebody with too much money not > understanding why people might object to the price hike, he's also, I > think, over-estimating the appeal of the "Borderlands" brand. Because, > let's face it, while a lot of people loved the original two games, the > franchise hasn't been doing that well and --especially after that > disastrous movie-- its done little to bring people back into the fold. > Now is not the time to drive people away; you need to give them > reasons to want to come back. Being an out-of-touch too-rich > douche-bag is not a winning strategy. > > Well, I'm sure he doesn't care. Even if Borderlands 4 fails --even if > Gearbox itself folds-- I'm sure he's well protected by a golden > parachute. Actually doing his job of keeping the company healthy and > customers happy is hardly a requirement for CEOs anymore, anyway. > > I wasn't going to get "Borderlands 4"... certainly not at the $80 > price point, and unlikely at anything lower. The franchise has left me > increasingly cold over the years; I found its gunplay pretty average, > and the entire looter-shooter mechanic (ten billion guns and none of > them good!) tedious. The setting, while somewhat intriguing at the > start, is now a barely-funny joke run into the ground through > repetition. And they're bringing Claptrap back, despite everybody > hating him. Yeah, there's nothing I want in "Borderlands 4" to start > with. > > But there's even less of a chance I'm interested now. > > Good job, Randy. > There's the other outcome. Piracy. Price too high, no one interested = no one buys your game (at release and that price anyway.) Price too high, interest is high, no one has enough cash = Piracy. I am in the 'not interested' demographic. I could afford an $80 but only if it was something I was very interested in. I'll wait until a big sale if I even ever get enough interest. If the big sale never happens, oh well. -- -Justisaur ø-ø (\_/)\ `-'\ `--.___, ¶¬'\( ,_.-' \\ ^'