Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 21:42:03 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: References: <10140pm$2huu3$1@dont-email.me> <211597acf09cc21af2125ea3c9fe12d4@www.novabbs.com> <101acbb$188t$1@dont-email.me> <101cpl6$isnr$1@dont-email.me> <1844830cac6ece08$164805$1966588$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <844a0d83caeacd8dae32487821889fb8@www.novabbs.com> <1844b1dd9110820c$262985$1819595$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <101h830$1vsbc$1@dont-email.me> <5dfed512171a25be1a5999aef8254b63@www.novabbs.com> <101q7ns$11418$1@dont-email.me> <1845f53bbba17f85$13863$2064386$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="802126"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$qNJYuVooU55BvyLEQJZdNOXjpiFmQLZQcDYY5nnSTA1yt5NrfYZRa X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 21:47:46 +0000, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > On 6/4/2025 9:51 PM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >> Den 01.06.2025 23:22, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 10:02:16 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Note that it doesn't matter how you arrive at your hypothesis (theory). >>>> Its validity depend on the experimental data collected in 4. >>>> If they are in accordance with the predictions of your theory, >>>> your theory is confirmed, if not, your theory is falsified. >>>> >> >>> It does matter if you don't actually arrive at any real theory. >>> >>> Paul is ignorant that an invalid derivation is not testable and does not >>> predict. >> >> It doesn't matter how the theory is derived. >> You could have guessed it. >> >> But the theory has to be mathematically consistent >> (not self contradictory) and falsifiable. > > The Shit of your idiot guru doesn't > match any of those conditions. > >> >>> GR does not predict a doubling. >> >> A meaningless statement. >> >> GR is a consistent, falsifiable theory. > > No, neither. Your assertion is false. Paul doesn't understand that part of the scientific method is the derivation. For the derivation to be correct, it must be not only mathematically and logically consistent and falsifiable but also have a rational physics basis. One cannot add the effects of refraction to those of gravity to double the deflection by claiming a wave-particle duality unless you're a loon. Either light is a wave or a particle. Even if there were (in some sense) a wave-particle duality for photons, one cannot add refraction to gravitation. If it involved refraction, it would require a medium to be affected by gravity, and Einstein rejects the aether.