Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: What do Palestinians see on TV? Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 19:50:30 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 166 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 01:50:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="451421d0efeb9edbdb8de5a913214746"; logging-data="930452"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19p4s4C+rfaUYAKeDCY/07llIWxfRK7PsM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3UOUHe0HbN2pcm2HG1Fh1tCSplo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: On 4/20/2025 5:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > On Apr 20, 2025 at 1:33:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" wrote: > >> On 4/20/2025 3:38 PM, Rhino wrote: >>> On 2025-04-20 3:13 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>> On 4/20/2025 2:22 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-20 2:06 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>> On 4/20/2025 12:16 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-19 11:39 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2025 at 2:22:45 PM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2025-03-13 4:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>   On Mar 13, 2025 at 1:18:49 PM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>   On 3/13/2025 3:09 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>>>>>   / >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     But I'll bet that any kid that's been through the school >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     last 20 years knows ALL 147 of the genders that have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> been discovered so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     far and is convinced that Columbus and Churchill are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tied for the worst >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     people ever with Donald Trump emerging as a major >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contender. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     And they're experts on smashing capitalism. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>     Yeah, that's the ultimate goal of the schools now: raising >>>>>>>>>>>>     revolutionaries who will happily "burn it all down" when >>>>>>>>>>>> their leaders >>>>>>>>>>>>     are ready to give the order. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>   Other than podcasts and Usenet, where can I find tangible >>>>>>>>>>> evidence of >>>>>>>>>>>   this anarchistic indoctrination? >>>>>>>>>>   These were taken by a student at Alexander Hamilton High >>>>>>>>>> School in Los >>>>>>>>>>   Angeles. They were taken surreptitiously because the teacher >>>>>>>>>> prohibited cell >>>>>>>>>>   phone use in the classroom, not because it was distracting but >>>>>>>>>> because she >>>>>>>>>>   didn't want pictures of her classroom getting back to parents. >>>>>>>>>>   https://ibb.co/R44zv3Bq >>>>>>>>>>   As you can see, we have the BLM flag, the Palestine flag, and >>>>>>>>>> the flag of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>   Password People prominently displayed, while the American flag >>>>>>>>>> is dumped >>>>>>>>>>   haphazardly on some furniture in the background. >>>>>>>>>>   Other things this teacher hung on her wall include these >>>>>>>>>> lovely "Fuck the >>>>>>>>>>   Police" posters. >>>>>>>>>>   https://ibb.co/RkZsZc7h >>>>>>>>>>   This sort of thing is hardly an isolated incident. A couple >>>>>>>>>> months ago, I >>>>>>>>>>   stopped by my local high school to drop off a music project >>>>>>>>>> the band >>>>>>>>>> director >>>>>>>>>>   hired me to do and as I walked through the building it >>>>>>>>>> definitely struck me >>>>>>>>>>   that there were a lot more Soviet hammer-and-sickle flags on >>>>>>>>>> the walls of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>   classrooms than there were American flags. >>>>>>>>> I remember a teacher in Sacramento named Gabriel Gipe eventually >>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>> sacked for similar displays in his classroom. He proudly told an >>>>>>>>> undercover journalist about his efforts to radicalize his high >>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>> students. He even wore a beard and cap like Lenin did in his >>>>>>>>> (Lenin's) >>>>>>>>> public appearances back in the day. Here him in his own words, as >>>>>>>>> captured by the journalist: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-pro-antifa-high- >>>>>>>>> school- teacher-in-california-admits-communist >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm in favor of forcing these little collectivist apparatchiks to >>>>>>>> wear body >>>>>>>> cams while on the clock, just like police do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They're working for us. We should know what goes on in those >>>>>>>> classrooms. What >>>>>>>> they're being taught, what 'decorations' adorn the classroom >>>>>>>> walls, what >>>>>>>> political opinions the teacher is bringing into the classroom, >>>>>>>> what things >>>>>>>> they're purposely trying to hide from the parents, how much of >>>>>>>> their sex lives >>>>>>>> they feel compelled to share with the students, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If body cams are good enough for the cops, they should be good >>>>>>>> enough for >>>>>>>> teachers, also. Just like with the police, if they're doing their >>>>>>>> jobs >>>>>>>> properly, they have nothing to fear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ever since I heard about Gipe and some of the other radicals we >>>>>>> hear about, it has seemed to me that the classroom itself - EVERY >>>>>>> classroom - should be visible and audible to AT LEAST the parents >>>>>>> of every child in the room and arguably all of the people who fund >>>>>>> that school. The audio and video should be RECORDED so that parents >>>>>>> and other stakeholders can review it after the fact since most of >>>>>>> them will be busy doing other things during class. ALL teachers >>>>>>> need to be accountable for what they teach. The teaching materials >>>>>>> - textbooks, videos, handouts, reading lists - also need to be >>>>>>> accessible to the same people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then it will be possible to truly know what kind of propaganda and >>>>>>> nonsense the teachers are indoctrinated the students with. As a >>>>>>> side benefit, it will be a lot easier to determine which students >>>>>>> are discipline problems so that they can be handled appropriately. >>>>>>> Teachers have far too much trust in the current system: everyone >>>>>>> seems to give them the benefit of the doubt, no matter what, >>>>>>> particularly their unions, administrators, fellow teachers and >>>>>>> school boards. I think students are often persuaded to lie to >>>>>>> others, including their parents, about what happens in the >>>>>>> classroom to cover up the teachers' indoctrination efforts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once we see and hear exactly what happens in the classrooms, we'll >>>>>>> be better able to understand what reforms are necessary to end the >>>>>>> rot. >>>>>> >>>>>> The purpose of public education isn't tailored indoctrination, but >>>>>> the promulgation of a level of knowledge basic to a society.  In >>>>>> theory -- and usually in practice -- teachers do that better than >>>>>> parents. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> You forgot to put that "in theory" at the start of your FIRST >>>>> sentence too. >>>>> >>>>> I think there's been ample evidence now to the effect that teachers >>>>> ARE indoctrinating kids into nonsense like the umpteen-gender >>>>> universe, the nobility of Hamas, the idea that they can live - and be >>>>> taught - as animals, ad nauseum, ad infinitum. >>>>> >>>>> The time has come that teachers are MONITORED with video and audio. >>>>> Those who are doing their jobs properly have nothing to fear. Those >>>>> that are raising radical ideologues should lose their jobs. >>>> >>>> Let me guess:  You'd happily replace a human teacher with ChatGPT... >>>> >>> Why on earth would I want to do that? >> >> Because it's the best chance of a curriculum free of pesky "flaws". >> >> > And while you're figuring that out, tell me one good reason why >> teachers >>> SHOULDN'T be monitored by audio and video? >> >> Have you ever attempted a difficult task before a thousand inspectors? > > The police have an even more difficult task than public school teachers and > they're expected to do it before a thousand inspectors. More difficult, perhaps, but less subtle and reliant on the spontaneity and empathy that makes a good teacher. >