Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems Subject: Re: The Return of Michael Monkey Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 20:59:48 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: References: <39d33897812027c2aea255a41561fac6@www.novabbs.com> <7fdab725e16b3fd102c81b4fe3806ce9@www.novabbs.com> <2c898f8bc382ec1d2d525fab8ff24eb7@www.novabbs.com> <3ce090895c693a4e27b49c23e38626b5@www.novabbs.com> <3cafb20269a45df1b62373fcbbafc741@www.novabbs.com> <6967ba0c1cb7418035d338ebe09efe70@www.novabbs.com> <228ba6c5baab097c6fdc1aa38eb15b7c@www.novabbs.com> <578fa3a51b86cd5fb1d1306497984756@www.novabbs.com> <3f8bf762d2403c568cdca75e7947f4af@www.novabbs.com> <2e6a7af2ac4bcd2e72e12efdd5ed79b5@www.novabbs.com> <6e1eb8301376dbc22c08fa8bdf438a8c@www.novabbs.com> <86a28b7f1ce988fd55045b53c510d42d@www.novabbs.com> <32e69be4edba8923dd039f7280d52a3f@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3011020"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="Vf9CM7g99yqfGvzEHTw0bhrjcIfvzYBBhUuRma0rLuQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$UjZ95qdBEUphP6McFuhDbebWOkMKeuREbvSoqDMoIJ3wI6GIcNcOe X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: acd0b3e3614eaa6f47211734e4cbca3bfd42bebc On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 20:43:32 +0000, HarryLime wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:08:03 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: > >> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:43:16 +0000, HarryLime wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:55:06 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:55:28 +0000, George J. Dance wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 14:29:07 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka >>>>> "HarryLime" wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 18:01:42 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:56:41 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka >>>>>>> "HarryLime" wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:42:27 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: >>>>>>>>> MummyChunk wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, why do you lie and misrepresent so much, monkey boy Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pendragon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just curious. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The problem with you is that you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael >>>>>>>>> Pendragon. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That simply isn't true >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I don't expect you to admit it, Pendragon. >>>>>> >>>>>> You know the rules, Donkey: PPSFU (Post Proof or Shut the Fuck Up). >>>>>> >>>>>> Any so-called "misrepresentation" you can find was based on one of >>>>>> *your* posts. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, so HarryLiar wants proof? Let's look at his next paragraph: >>>>> >>>>>> I only know you from what you post here, Donkey. If you write a poem >>>>>> based on a "romantic interlude" where you grope a woman you barely knew, >>>>>> then I'm going to say that you sexually assaulted her (because according >>>>>> to your poem, that's exactly what you did). >>>>> >>>>> Harry Liar reposted an "edited" poem Will had written over 40 years ago >>>>> about a dream he'd had. You reposted part of the poem, snipping the line >>>>> about it being a dream, to falsely accuse him of sexual assault. >>>>> >>>>> Here's the thread, so readers can see for themselves: >>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=15788&group=rec.arts.poems#15788 >>>> >>>> Thanks, George. >>>> >>>> I see that Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon is bringing his attacks on >>>> me here, spreading his lies and misrepresentations. >>>> >>>> Never mind the Harry Lime bullocks, here's the original unedited version >>>> so the readers can decide for >>>> themselves: >>>> >>>> *** >>>> >>>>>>>>>> I Met A Girl >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I met a girl >>>>>>>>>> she came from California. >>>>>>>>>> It was in a dream >>>>>>>>>> we knew each other instantly. >>>>>>>>>> She was a little freckled girl >>>>>>>>>> from out of >>>>>>>>>> my high school past. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And she looked up at me >>>>>>>>>> and talked real spacey. >>>>>>>>>> I've forgotten her name >>>>>>>>>> though she told it to me twice. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We talked >>>>>>>>>> a really detached situation. >>>>>>>>>> She said years ago >>>>>>>>>> I was so shy >>>>>>>>>> she thought I was gay. >>>>>>>>>> At this point I kissed her >>>>>>>>>> and put my finger to her hole. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And she looked up at me >>>>>>>>>> and talked real spacey. >>>>>>>>>> I have forgotten her name >>>>>>>>>> though she told it to me twice. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't know why it was >>>>>>>>>> that I would think of her. >>>>>>>>>> I made a couple of puns >>>>>>>>>> about her name that made me blush. >>>>>>>>>> But her softness in tone >>>>>>>>>> made me feel all right. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All I want to do >>>>>>>>>> is get in contact. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Will Dockery / May 8 1982 >>>> >>>> *** >>>> >>>> Again, this poem was written in 1982, during my time in the Atlanta >>>> Georgia New Wave punk rock scene, while also influenced by the earlier >>>> Beatnik poets >>>> I was reading at the time, such as Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and >>>> Charles Bukowski among others. >>>> >>>> Both styles employed a sort of crude swagger in the tone and content >>>> which I also used in many of my poems. >>>> >>>> Again, all apologies to those offended. >>>> >>>> HTH and HAND, again. >>>> >>>> 😏 >>> >>> And again, the poem is your attempt to recast what can only be seen as >>> an act of sexual assault (at least insofar as it's depicted in your >>> poem) as a "romantic interlude" from you past. >> >> No, that's your attempt to misrepresent the meaning of my poem. >> >> HTH and HAND. > > The meaning of your poem (or any given poem) is derived from the words > that comprise it. > > The meaning of your poem is quite clear. It's just not the meaning > you'd intended it to have. > > -- That's your opinion, Harry. Others, including myself and George Dance, don't agree. HTH and HAND.