Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Thompson Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc,comp.programming Subject: Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 11:38:01 -0700 Organization: None to speak of Lines: 40 Message-ID: <87ecvjh6ra.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> References: <2x2dnWlc86XdcNH1nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> <87qzzmhdy6.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <5I-cnV8SK8VOz9P1nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> <87msa9h76f.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <20250615144624.27b35f75@deangelis.fenrir.org.uk> <87ikkwhgzr.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <20250616183212.784dd2c3@deangelis.fenrir.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 20:38:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="95ddb5e24379a29cb7576b954cbd2d14"; logging-data="1912602"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX185pFUUII/ahw7CceT6HbIu" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nmiD6juoDlZ4YNPSakg0o221vWM= sha1:VnE/c1obuo4CYnvzoXlBWPhOlxA= Brian Morrison writes: > On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 13:44:40 -0700 > Keith Thompson wrote: > >> > I have no dog in this fight. >> >> That article does not suggest that a Python 4 release is likely >> any time soon. > > The way I read it, it's not a no, and it's not really a yes. But python > 3.99 could eventually happen and they may get bored with the minor > number incrementing at some point. My point was that "c186282" made some very specific claims: Frankly, Python is just generally 'better' these days. Maybe not AS 'concise' but more 'readable' AND easier to understand six months from now. The speed is now 'adequate' and Python-4 is supposed to be even faster. and The PLAN is far fewer diffs than between P2 and P3, just more optimization. I'd say expect early releases within a year. My question is not so much "Is there going to be a Python 4?" (I already have an adequate answer to that: it could happen some day, but there are no plans for it), as "What exactly is c186282 talking about, and can they support their remarkable claims?". If c186282 doesn't reply in this thread, I'll consider that to be an answer. I humbly suggest that anyone who wants to discuss whether there's going to be a Python 4 start a new thread, perhaps on comp.lang.python. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */