Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Yet Even Fresher Linux Date: 2 Aug 2025 06:01:10 GMT Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net HMA/NPTLIXHIG80C4kB+sgUR3UPoQpuB6N7wrUrfhq9T4vWav5 Cancel-Lock: sha1:wwIVLHG2VTEq09omUamxtS5RJCw= sha256:9GYxN0VnUdXQOZ01Wl4JsWW78sXKUG8PZO+QQfeF2Bs= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 05:30:49 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote: > Farley Flud > news:pan$ab58a$bf644371$fa8ab850$ad148e2f@linux.rocks Thu, 31 Jul 2025 > 18:58:19 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: > >> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 04:46:50 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote: >> >>> looking for noticeable differences in performance or behaviour of the >>> machine. >>> >>> >> What do you mean by "noticeable?" >> >> Human sensory perception cannot detect differences in performance. >> Such things must be rigorously measured. > > Actually, depending on the hardware; human sensory is fast enough to > catch a performance difference. > In this specific request though, I was asking if they happened to notice > any difference in the systems performance; I assume they also understood > my question was asking how the system 'felt' between the differences. > Does that make better sense? The rule of thumb is 500 milliseconds. For example if you click on a button and it takes 500 msec for something to happen most users will feel the system is sluggish. For many things that might be considered more than sluggish. For context: (trigger warning: triggers get pulled) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHG-ibZaKM The bangs are about 125 msecs apart and there is no problem discerning the individual events. I don't know if it has been applied to computer systems but the concept of JNDs has been around for a long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-noticeable_difference