Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems Subject: Re: The Return of Michael Monkey Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:42:31 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <3ce090895c693a4e27b49c23e38626b5@www.novabbs.com> References: <0a2e99524c82074bf4dd559138058599@www.novabbs.com> <39d33897812027c2aea255a41561fac6@www.novabbs.com> <7fdab725e16b3fd102c81b4fe3806ce9@www.novabbs.com> <2c898f8bc382ec1d2d525fab8ff24eb7@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2680229"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="Vf9CM7g99yqfGvzEHTw0bhrjcIfvzYBBhUuRma0rLuQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: acd0b3e3614eaa6f47211734e4cbca3bfd42bebc X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$w4uY6NvJVX6OxZp3lylCX.wSE8fxfWhhXq6SL4AvqkEBsuTQPYyKG X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 16:23:17 +0000, HarryLime wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 22:31:52 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:34:01 +0000, HarryLime wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 14:12:25 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 13:03:55 +0000, HarryLime wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 12:28:29 +0000, Will-Dockery wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> MummyChunk wrote: > >>>>>> Again, why do you lie and misrepresent so much, monkey boy Michael >>>>>>> Pendragon? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just curious. > >>>>>> Why is he called "monkey boy"??? It seems that the origin stories vary. >>>>>> It might come from the Pink Floyd Animals album, Lord of the Flies or >>>>>> George >>>>>> Orwell's Animal Farm, or possibly a mashup of all three. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm known as donkey, Pendleton is the monkey, Peter J. Ross was called >>>>>> Piggy >>>>>> (although PJR has been gone from the newsgroup for a couple of years >>>>>> now). >>>>>> >>>>>> I think George Dance has always just been referred to as "Dunce" >>>>>> though. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's the basics as I remember them. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a response to the post seen at: >>>>>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=680817254#680817254 >>>>> >>>>> Again, Donkey, this is the story of how "Monkey" and "Donkey" came >>>>> about: >>>>> >>>>> Since you've brought me back for one more day, Donkey, I'll answer your >>>>> question here (and in the pointless duplicate thread you've created to >>>>> ask it again it), as well. >>>>> >>>>> The origin of "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with Gary Gamble. >>>>> >>>>> Gary Gamble had left the group long before my arrival here. And as far >>>>> as I know, I have never interacted with him. >>>>> >>>>> In fact, "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with anything said at AAPC. >>>>> >>>>> I live in a very small house that was built in the 1920s. I like to >>>>> think of it as a rustic cottage or a cozy bungalow. In order to expand >>>>> the living space, one of the previous owners finished the basement, and >>>>> turned it into a combination kitchen, dining room and bar. I keep my >>>>> computer down there, so when I'm online, I'm technically in the >>>>> basement. >>>>> >>>>> About seven years ago (give or take), my wife sent our youngest child >>>>> downstairs to see what I was doing. He looked over my shoulder while I >>>>> was posting something to Usenet AAPC, and shouted up to her "He's >>>>> talking to Will Donkey the computer." >>>>> >>>>> Since the idea of someone conversing with a donkey on computer is funny, >>>>> it immediately became a running joke in our house. "Daddy's talking to >>>>> Will Donkey again," etc). >>>>> >>>>> Since stubbornness is one of your strongest characteristics, I >>>>> immediately began addressing you as "Will Donkey" in AAPC as well. >>>>> >>>>> "Monkey," otoh, came about when Karen Tellefsen wrote a satirical poem >>>>> about our endless flame war here, set to the tune of "Pop Goes the >>>>> Weasel." "Pop Goes the Weasel," in case you're unfamiliar with it, is a >>>>> nursery rhyme about a monkey chasing a weasel around a cobbler's bench. >>>>> In her poem, she replaced "Weasel" with "Donkey" (signifying you, as I >>>>> had already started calling you "Will Donkey" at that time). She >>>>> retained "Monkey" from the original because I often posted under my >>>>> backup account here as "Coco DeSockmonkey." >>>> >>>> I remember Coco. >>>> >>>>> You and George immediately started calling me "Michael Monkey" as a >>>>> result. >>>> >>>> No, I almost always have called you Michael Pendragon, choosing to take >>>> the high road and not dink to your low level of childish insults and >>>> name calling. >>> >>> You've been calling me a "Little Green Monkey" for the past week or so, >> >> Tit for Tat, look it up. > > No kidding, Pee-wee. > > It just counteracts your claim that you "almost always have called (me) > Michael Pendragon." > >>>>> There ypu have it: "Will Donkey" came from my son's misreading of your >>>>> name on my monitor, and "Michael Monkey" came from Karen's satirical >>>>> poem. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> That sounds about right except the animal name calling really goes back >>>> to earlier times. >>> >>> Mummy Chunks asked you where the "Monkey Boy" name came from -- not when >>> calling people by childish animal names began. >> >> Well, we should start at where it all begins, never mind that you second >> handed the idea, Pendragon. > > > MummyChunk didn't ask when the childish name-calling began. They asked > about the origin of "Monkey Boy." > > We should start by answering the actual question that was asked. > > -- Okay, fair enough, let's do that.