Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees: Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 12:19:27 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <101nrs6$9s8i$1@dont-email.me> <101o6eu$coaq$1@dont-email.me> <101p3am$muti$1@dont-email.me> <101pajo$p0gi$3@dont-email.me> <101pjf9$rahk$7@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 18:19:30 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="03e45df4fb90f84259f164a9ad56948f"; logging-data="981653"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19GFlUH45IWSOqtQQw79TNDsD9kSxsjJCw=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:+gPoTDQSnIh/lk6ex0oDMABwFEQ= > kilmar-abrego-garciaOn Wed, 4 Jun 2025 08:59:07 -0500, AMuzi wrote: >On 6/4/2025 6:43 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>> kilmar-abrego-garciaOn Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:27:52 +0200, Rolf Mantel wrote: >> >>> Am 04.06.2025 um 11:52 schrieb Catrike Ryder: >>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:23:34 +0200, Rolf Mantel >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Am 04.06.2025 um 10:31 schrieb Catrike Ryder: >>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:10:55 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In article , >>>>>>> Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>>>> I'm neither in the USA illegally, nor have I committed any crimes, so >>>>>>>> you needn't worry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not worried that you're in the US illegally or have committed any >>>>>>> crimes. I'm worried that the government will *say* you're in the country >>>>>>> illegally and then ship you off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no law that says the government cannot say you are in the >>>>>>> country illegally. The only thing protecting you is the fact that you >>>>>>> get a hearing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You clearly trust the government far more than I do to be willing to >>>>>>> waive this right. >>>>>> >>>>>> US citizens should indeed get a hearing. >>>>> >>>>> Do you mean "people who claim to be US citizens" should get a hearing to >>>>> verify whether they are indeed US citizens? >>>> >>>> No >>> >>> So you claim to be a US citizen, the government claim you're not. >>> Should you get a hearing or should the government deport you without a >>> hearing? >> >> Good grief... I'm not going to respond to your hypothetical question >> about something that's not going to happen. >> >> -- >> C'est bon >> Soloman > > >All sorts of things happen. > >https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/51st-murder-case-tied-to-former-cpd-detective-overturned > >I can't see a policy answer to inherent errors in any large >set with high stakes for the (guilty or innocent) >individual. We do our best. And fail regularly. I'll answer that question when it happens.. I don't think it'd be wise to hold your breath. -- C'est bon Soloman