Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andy Walker Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Integration "by parts" [was Re: Functions computed by Turing Machines ...] Date: Mon, 5 May 2025 13:47:43 +0100 Organization: Not very much Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <991dde3a60e1485815b789520c7149e7842d18f2@i2pn2.org> <-GOdnZvgEPn-84j1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 05 May 2025 14:47:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="707fc9240e3c4e7539f1c1d32326c7b1"; logging-data="92704"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18xGBKD2/x2XnvkQzjfXDOr" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:SDFiR67zUXBZLm3XnQRpbMFDJyY= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: On 04/05/2025 22:18, Richard Heathfield wrote: > [...] I hit a hard wall (integration by parts) and never really recovered. Is that still a "hard wall" for you? I know how annoying it is to be told that something you find hard is "really" very easy, but in this case it really is, and the problem is usually bad teaching. That in turn is usually down to pay; if mathematicians can get two or three+ times the salary by going into accountancy, computing, ..., then it's not surprising that only the most dedicated go into teaching and the rest is left to a smattering of people with school maths who barely understand what they're trying to teach. Fair dos, some of them turn out to be excellent, but the general standard is dire. Recent prominence [at least in the UK] given to "STEM" is perhaps changing that, but it's too late for most people. -- Andy Walker, Nottingham. Andy's music pages: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music Composer of the day: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music/Composers/Wolf