Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: How are criminals arrested Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:28:01 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 85 Message-ID: <103c6bh$18oe9$6@dont-email.me> References: <0ccb5kd5tat0tb9ckidjpqkv7mvjm0tl6s@4ax.com> <1034h4t$85ld$3@dont-email.me> <1034jmr$8jua$7@dont-email.me> <10391bn$i5je$1@dont-email.me> <10393qp$hrnn$5@dont-email.me> <10394h0$i5je$5@dont-email.me> <1039mj7$nfo0$1@dont-email.me> <103birm$18lno$1@dont-email.me> <6vji5k5a1tioesrtf7edkqt2l5geh5ni6c@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a436bc01281faf65b4cc2da60f0df220"; logging-data="1335753"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18VS/+ZwFVvSsGrR0lIASdTWYKr3NvIFMg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vw1hAzUsIk4V0jt/WYyFNR3sPGQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <6vji5k5a1tioesrtf7edkqt2l5geh5ni6c@4ax.com> On 6/23/2025 9:10 AM, John B. wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:55:20 -0500, AMuzi wrote: > >> On 6/23/2025 4:51 AM, John B. wrote: >>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 21:13:33 -0700, Jeff Liebermann >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:46:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/22/2025 12:00 PM, cyclintom wrote: >>>>>> My fucking water bill last month was $100 and that was almost entirely from flushing toilets. That, just 15 years ago wouls have been $10. >>>>> >>>>> Mine arrived yesterday. $26.10 for the month. You need to move out of >>>>> that hellhole before your water bills break you! >>>> >>>> My last water bill was $80.50. I live about 60 miles south of Tom. We >>>> have different water companies. My water bill has been creeping >>>> upwards since the last few droughts: >>>> >>>> My water bill went up even faster after the CZU fire destroyed a large >>>> part of the water distribution and storage system Aug-Sept 2020: >>>> >>>> Also, only $9.50 of the $80.50 is for water. The rest if for service. >>>> In other words, if the water district delivered no water, my bill >>>> would still be $71 per month. >>>> >>>> I suspect that Tom's water bill follows the same pattern, where >>>> reducing his water use will have almost no effect on his $100 monthly >>>> bill. >>> >>> >>> Dig a well.... >>> -- >>> cheers, >>> >>> John B. >>> >> >> Sounds simple. It's not. In WI you need a drill permit >> first, can't do it yourself, as it requires a licensed well >> driller and then there's county water testing, forever. >> >> As with your 'water' bill, the larger expense is on the >> other (sewage) side. In rural areas, that's septic tank >> clearance and testing (leach fields no longer permitted). >> >> https://odorfreeseptic.com/septic-system-regulations/wisconsin-septic-system-regulations/ > > > I can only sympathies with you people back there .... all those > helpful agencies. > > Growing up in mid New Hampshire we lived in two houses with wells and > septic tanks. Never a problem. > > I suppose that the difference was that we knew what we were doing and > the U.S. wasn't, in those days intent on controlling every act the > citizens make. I lived in New Hampshire for about 4 years. We had a well and septic tank. A significant number of NH residents still have wells and septic tanks, and a large percentage of new home built in the state are also independent of municipal water/sewer. https://www.des.nh.gov/water/drinking-water/private-wells https://www.des.nh.gov/news-and-media/blog/september-2019-its-septic-smart-week-time-get-pumped-new-hampshire The difference here is that the vast majority of wells are well over 200 feet deep. https://www.des.nh.gov/sites/g/files/ehbemt341/files/documents/2020-01/dwgb-1-2.pdf Our well was relatively shallow at 150 feet, but we also lived next to a spring-fed pond. If you consider that a septic tank is literally a few feet below the surface, having a 4 foot deep septic tank that's 2 feet below the surface gives plenty of isolation and filtering. -- Add xx to reply