Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!epsilon3.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jay Morris Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 22:29:57 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 81 Message-ID: <104kno4$12g7$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org> References: <104hpt0$366ir$2@dont-email.me> <05gq6kp7hunqlhgka72vufotma45ope50g@4ax.com> <9XbbQ.123$sKi9.83@fx14.iad> <104jvqr$3oq3i$1@dont-email.me> <104k1h7$3jrj0$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2025 05:30:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: epsilon3.eternal-september.org; posting-host="fa9d233107b902e6d2dd30ef0a2f6e86"; logging-data="35335"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ClcbKbMX3eUCeeXZqq2KQebNBWCd1GXQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:n6DWvkSbgJzrL1C57XpywLddf4E= X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 250708-8, 7/8/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <104k1h7$3jrj0$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US On 7/8/2025 4:11 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >     The team leaders were cut. One can imagine that the leaders might > have been more capable of impressing the locals with the danger. > >> >> Although local authorities are looking very bad, the weather service >> situation is not clear to me.  Doge's cuts technically do not come for >> a few weeks, but staffing levels are already down.  With more people >> the warnings might have been followed up with more personal contacts, >> as has happened in the past. >> >> Nobody in the news seems to be focusing on the flood watch that was >> put out Friday.  The watch says, well, watch.  Trouble may be coming, >> keep an eye out for further bulletins.  Virtually all the commentary >> seems to assume that a watch is something to be ignored.  Even in an >> area known to be prone to flash floods. >> The regional office (fully staffed and more) put out a series of watches and warnings, the last being an extreme warning about an hour before the flood, so late because the storm built so fast. Every time a storm of any significant strength moves through the hill country and south of it we get watches, warnings, and floods but the floods rarely raise far enough to do much damage. Mainly because building is not allowed in the frequently flooded part of the floodplain. Most deaths occur from people driving through low water crossings, even when the gates are closed[1], warning lights are flashing, etc. There are "Turn Around, Don't Drown" signs at almost every crossing, billboards, and TV commercials but people ignore it. [2] So yes, we get complacent about watches and even warnings. > >     I think it was 1987 when another flash flood rose higher.  Trump on > site > dismissed this as a 100 year flood but it is much more frequent than that. > Due to climate changes which he believes to be a Chinese invention. > The 1987 flood was lower by a few feet. the 1935 flood was higher by a couple feet. The major difference was how fast it developed and the time of occurrence. This flood was caused by a rain bomb that dropped 10" an hour in a very localized area very early in the morning. Most of our flooding occurs with moderate-to-heavy rain over a wide area building up in the hill country creeks leading to the rivers. Many of the buildings destroyed had been there 30, 40, 50, even a 100 years and while they may have been flooded before, now they are completely gone. If I remember correctly, Camp Mystic was barely touched in the 1987 flood. A 100 year flood is also misunderstood. It means every year there's a one in 100 chance of having a flood of a certain magnitude. It's expressed better on floodplain maps. The basic areas indicated are: if it rains there's going to be a flood in this area, there's a 1% chance in a year of a flood in this area, and there's a .25% chance in a year of a flood in this area. In San Antonio we had 100 year (1%) floods in 1998 and 2002. From what I've heard many Kerr County residents didn't want the siren system. The thinking being that it's going to be a bad as the watches/warnings. They're going to go off at least a few times a year, if not several, every time the river rises five feet so people would just ignore them unless they are actually in the river. I'll also note that this was not the only river to flood from this system, just the worst. I think three others. We've had more rain in the area and two storm systems moved through the San Antonio area, with flood watches. [1]I don't think I've seen one locked but since I don't go near low water crossings when it's raining not positive. [2]Sometimes it doesn't matter what you do. We recently had 15 people killed in their cars. They were stopped at a traffic light on a low-lying interstate access road when a wall of water came sweeping across the road, carrying the vehicles into a creek and downstream for a couple of miles. Jay - who used to live a lot closer to the hill county but moved further south, where we still get flooding.