Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dbush Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 14:20:52 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 20:20:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d587ba6f088c47ed8fd2ad250ebfd646"; logging-data="1225169"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18omSjcRrfVF9Fy8Wtgeu9T" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4KM9KeOv0RPNa1/oHKegiv8jVgQ= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US On 5/12/2025 2:17 PM, olcott wrote: > Introduction to the Theory of Computation 3rd Edition > by Michael Sipser (Author) > 4.4 out of 5 stars    568 rating > > https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Theory-Computation-Michael-Sipser/ > dp/113318779X > > int DD() >  { >   int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >   if (Halt_Status) >     HERE: goto HERE; >   return Halt_Status; >  } > > DD correctly simulated by any pure simulator > named HHH cannot possibly terminate thus proving > that this criteria has been met: > > >     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its >     input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D >     would never stop running unless aborted then > >     H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D >     specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. >   > Which is not what you thought he agreed to: On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 2:41:27 PM UTC-5, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > I exchanged emails with him about this. He does not agree with anything > substantive that PO has written. I won't quote him, as I don't have > permission, but he was, let's say... forthright, in his reply to me.