Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH(DD) --- COMPUTE ACTUAL MAPPING FROM INPUT TO OUTPUT --- Using Finite String Transformations Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 18:20:56 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 23:25:12 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1749012"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 On 4/24/25 3:47 PM, olcott wrote: > On 4/24/2025 2:15 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 24.apr.2025 om 19:46 schreef olcott: >>> On 4/24/2025 3:11 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>> Op 24.apr.2025 om 05:34 schreef olcott: >>>>> On 4/23/2025 7:31 PM, Mike Terry wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ...because HHH stops simulating before reaching that step in the >>>>>> computation.  Note that I said >>>>>> >>>>>> MT:  Both traces were of course /identical/, >>>>>>       *up to the point where HHH stops simulating* >>>>>> >>>>>> So I was factually correct. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It *is not* up to the point where HHH stops simulating. >>>>> >>>>> It is up to the point where the simulated versus directly >>>>> executed calls HHH(DD). >>>>> >>>> That is exactly the same point. If not, show the difference in the >>>> traces before that point. >>> >>> As soon as the directly executed DD calls HHH(DD) this >>> call immediately returns. >>> >>> When DD emulated by HHH calls HHH(DD) then HHH emulates >>> DD and also emulates itself emulating DD. This is one >>> whole recursive emulation than the directly executed >>> DD can possibly get to. > >> Again a lot of words, which hide that you cannot show where the traces >> differ up to that point. > > THEY DIFFER BY THE EMULATED DD REACHES RECURSIVE EMULATION > AND THE DIRECTLY EXECUTED DD NEVER DOES. > And what instruction says that per the x86 instruction language? Your failure to answer just proves you know you are lying.