Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems Subject: Re: Usenet newsgroups portals Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 00:01:23 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: References: <897e033ccbb2360a63e7388b5dfc2f9f@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2568165"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="Vf9CM7g99yqfGvzEHTw0bhrjcIfvzYBBhUuRma0rLuQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: acd0b3e3614eaa6f47211734e4cbca3bfd42bebc X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$KxEskQNv3oPcBZpO/VlzfeUQC9ztZwm0VRFOSagYLQhDIg.7tV/3C X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 1:10:19 +0000, MummyChunk wrote: >> Will Dockery wrote: >> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 10:21:12 +0000, Retro Guy wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 22:46:06 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: >>> Retro Guy wrote: >>> Will Dockery wrote: >>> Retro Guy wrote: >>> Will Dockery wrote: >>> >>> Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums: >> >> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655 >>> I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes >>> produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper >>> references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a >>> newsreader. >>> >>> Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the thread, >>> not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in newsreaders. >>> >>> Hopefully some of these technical issues have been resolved, Retro Guy. >>> As far as I can tell with my limited knowledge of such matters it seems >>> improvements have been made. >>> >>> When you post from there, I'm not seeing a difference. From this thread, >>> note the line wrapping is a mess: >>> >>> ----------------- >>> Retro Guy wrote: >>> >>> >>> I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which >>> sometimes >>> produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper >>> references headers so that threading worked properly for those >>> using a >>> newsreader. >>> >>> Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the >>> thread, >>> not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in >>> newsreaders. >>> >>> -- >>> Retro Guy >>> >>> I can say that in the past couple of weeks JLA Forums has vastly >>> improved. >>> ------------------ >>> >>> I can take a look at the other issues (dates, etc.), but I'm not sure >>> anything has changed. The formatting is by far the worst part of it. It >>> makes a mess of quoting. The References: header in that message has only >>> one reference, so threading will be incorrect. >>> >>> Yes, I'm seeing the line wrapping is happening. >>> >>> I'm not sure how the JLA Forums moderator can solve this, but perhaps >>> you could offer some tips here, Retro Guy? >>> >>> They would need to modify the code of their site to fix this. Since >>> their software does not seem to support Usenet articles properly, >>> someone would need to rewrite the code to do do so. >>> >>> Their site uses 'newsSync' to send the articles to giganews, but it does >>> not change the formatting, it just sends a badly formatted article to >>> Usenet, including missing References headers. >>> >>> Their software is just simply not meant for Usenet, unless they fix it. >>> It appears to just be web forum software pretending that Usenet articles >>> are part of their site. As long as a user stays there, it's all good, >>> but the articles that get sent out do not conform to the network they >>> are being sent to (Usenet). >>> >>> This is a problem Google Groups apparently didn't have, right? >>> >>> I don't think this was a problem with the Google Groups version of >>> Usenet? >>> >>> Google Groups had some formatting issues, but not anywhere near as bad >>> as jlaforum. You usually didn't notice it. >>> >>> Of course GG was made for Usenet (I assume), and Google can pretty much >>> code whatever they want to code. Their interface did work, and the >>> articles were mostly Usenet compliant. >>> >>> Before I started novaBBS, I tried to modify a web forum software for >>> Usenet use (FudForum) but very quickly realized that it was a bad idea. >>> I got it working fine, but the articles sent were not well formatted, >>> and incoming articles were not handled well. I gave up pretty quickly >>> and decided to just write my own. I actually forked an old, out of date >>> and didn't work anymore piece of software and modified it, heavily. >>> >>> I'm not an expert, but I feel like Nova BBS does a pretty good job. >>> >>> Thank you. I think the whole idea is to at least try. novaBBS has bugs, >>> and when someone points one out, and can demonstrate how to duplicate >>> it, I try to fix it. Try is the main word here, I may fail :) In fact, >>> novaBBS used to have the same quoting issue as jlaforum, until a user >>> did some testing and showed me exactly when it would happen. Then, I >>> fixed it, after several attempts and with the user providing feedback >>> along the way. >>> >>> When jlaform reached out to me about novaBBS removing advertising >>> injected into posts, we discussed it, and I temporarily removed that >>> filter (it's back now). But when I mentioned to the person at jla the >>> issuses we have discussed above, then completely ignore every word I >>> said about it. (S)He only seemed to care about making sure their >>> advertising gets through. Nothing more. >>> 4f83b5b9e5da34fe53f4f6d3e12c6164@www.novabbs.org >>> > https://www.novabbs.com/rocksolid/article-flat.php?id=1911&group=rocksolid. > nodes.help#1911 >>> >>> You can't fix something if you don't seem to have any interest in doing >>> so. >> >> I understand, there seems to be a definite communication gap here >> between you at Nova BBS and the moderator at JLA Forums. >> >> Hopefully you can get these problems worked out in the coming days. > > > > > I passed along this post to the admin last week and they said they are > working > on making corrections. Again, posts about me are appearing on rec.srts.poens but not my actual poetry posts themselves: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657767499#657767499 > This is a response to the post seen at: > http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=680754858#680754858 ...