Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Thoughts on industrial design Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 11:32:25 -0700 Lines: 49 Message-ID: <16hv0kt7l8gr0bggcp7r7039l0jotl7qmt@4ax.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net FoaIq37eUcvduzAsW0vHZQGHt/+MUnT2rSKh1fvjyGwy0Euxx3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:3eCp/zkRvMZRe1VARVsmGcG/iMs= sha256:AA0J79zoa8Q3CGIEjhyMLc9DbD+2iAPRjSI96gBRMoM= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 14:02:28 -0400, Zen Cycle wrote: >On 4/27/2025 9:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 4/27/2025 2:32 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 09:47:23 -0500, AMuzi wrote: >>> >>>> He did dump the slushbox for an actual gearbox, which is nice. >>> >>> Yep.  I looked around for a stick shift model.  Except for my first >>> car, all have been stick shifts.  Driving an automatic makes me feel >>> like I'm the passenger instead of the driver.  With a stick shift, I'm >>> part of the machine.  If I live long enough to need a new car, it will >>> probably be another stick shift. >> >> I got in a conversation with a Tesla owner last week. He proudly showed >> me a video shot from his driver's seat showing the car self-driving from >> his garage to a coffee shop. The ultimate non-driving experience! >> >> I've never owned a car with automatic transmission. Of course, my >> current EV has only one fixed ratio reduction gear, so I've moved beyond >> playing with multiple ratios. Just step on the gas ... no, throttle ... >> no, accelerator, and it goes. > >Can you call it "stepping on the gas" in an EV? "What phrase will replace "step on the gas!" once vehicles are all electric?" "Step on the accelerator" seems to be the consensus, although "step on the rotary encoder" would be more technically correct. Model S Model Y Marginally better photos: It looks like a rotary encoder, but I'm not certain. >> Half of my bikes are friction shifting, which is a vaguely similar issue >> for discussion. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558