Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dbush Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Analysis_of_Flibble=E2=80=99s_Latest=3A_Detecting_v?= =?UTF-8?Q?s=2E_Simulating_Infinite_Recursion_ZFC?= Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 16:28:10 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <1017rkq$3drlu$3@dont-email.me> References: <100r5hn$b650$2@dont-email.me> <100r648$bhcu$1@dont-email.me> <100r68v$b650$3@dont-email.me> <100sn6a$p071$1@dont-email.me> <100snl3$nvac$1@dont-email.me> <100sr6o$ppn2$3@dont-email.me> <100uqro$1an9v$1@dont-email.me> <100vehv$1en90$1@dont-email.me> <100vl4m$1g3rf$1@dont-email.me> <101224h$22da5$6@dont-email.me> <10123oq$2320h$1@dont-email.me> <10124j3$22da5$16@dont-email.me> <101285u$23u6u$1@dont-email.me> <10128df$23fpg$1@dont-email.me> <1012eie$25djd$1@dont-email.me> <1012epa$25ej1$1@dont-email.me> <1012fp8$24dfe$10@dont-email.me> <1012iu7$265fe$2@dont-email.me> <1013u9p$2h8vk$1@dont-email.me> <10140br$2hkq1$1@dont-email.me> <10144s4$2iqqa$1@dont-email.me> <1014dm7$2kke0$1@dont-email.me> <1015al0$2qlhp$1@dont-email.me> <1016f12$343p9$7@dont-email.me> <101772a$39etk$3@dont-email.me> <10178i0$39b3d$1@dont-email.me> <10179es$39etk$9@dont-email.me> <1017qot$3drlu$2@dont-email.me> <1017rel$3dvo0$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 22:28:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="afb8956c6c0ca017e568e5050f0792bd"; logging-data="3600062"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18hZLOiIN9UGpxgTBLEnstm" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:85nEIQcj+AGp4uND01JAATEJHXs= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1017rel$3dvo0$1@dont-email.me> On 5/28/2025 4:24 PM, olcott wrote: > On 5/28/2025 3:13 PM, dbush wrote: >> On 5/28/2025 11:17 AM, olcott wrote: >>> When you require sum(3,4) to report on the sum of 5 + 6 >>> YOU ARE WRONG. When you require HHH to report on the >>> behavior of its caller YOU ARE WRONG. >> >> But I want to know what it's caller does. >> >> In fact, I want to know if any arbitrary algorithm X with input Y will >> halt when executed directly. >> > > It is completely impossible to know with 100% > perfectly complete logical certainty that five > minutes ago ever exists. > > That doesn't change the fact that I want to know if any arbitrary algorithm X with input Y will halt when executed directly. It would be *very* useful to me if I had an algorithm H that could tell me that in *all* possible cases. If so, I could solve the Goldbach conjecture, among many other unsolved problems. Does an algorithm H exist that can tell me that or not?