Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: The Physics Behind the Spanish Blackout Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 03:55:28 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <10292v4$16q4g$1@dont-email.me> References: <6846feef$10$17$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <1027cnn$nfnr$1@dont-email.me> <6847b7d7$0$14$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:55:33 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dd1193f69f6d090f10ef28c45e6d728a"; logging-data="1271952"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19pT0A8KxAGGWtekeWSgIjv" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:y7DubUSpc80/ivZ9fz1SvINFbMI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <6847b7d7$0$14$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> On 6/9/2025 9:43 PM, bitrex wrote: > On 6/9/2025 3:29 PM, Don Y wrote: >> "Damn unreliable fossil fuels!"  > > Yes we've experienced a "propane outage" on at least one occasion as there had > been interpersonal communications issues as to what "running low" meant > precisely, and then the scheduled delivery was delayed for a couple days, no > explanation why. Ah, propane instead of heating oil (not anywhere near as messy). Yes, managing your own delivery schedule (or, relying on the vendor-du-jour to deliver when the time is right -- and not just when he wants to make a sale at the current spot price) is a PITA. > Probably just got backed up near the holidays with employees taking off early. > > The propane delivery companies always charge for an emergency delivery and > reprime, even if they were delayed. You're free to complain by finding another > company (who does the same thing.) The phrase "by the balls" comes to mind.