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On 4/28/2025 12:10 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 4/28/2025 4:05 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2025-04-27 18:23:03 +0000, olcott said:
>>
>>> On 4/27/2025 4:51 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-26 16:15:44 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>
>>>>> _DD()
>>>>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
>>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>>>>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
>>>>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
>>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
>>>>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>> [00002155] c3         ret
>>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>>>>
>>>>> When any HHH emulates DD according to the finite
>>>>> string transformation rules specified by the x86
>>>>> language (the line of demarcation between correct
>>>>> and incorrect emulation) no emulated DD can possibly
>>>>> reach its final halt state and halt.
>>>>
>>>> There is a type error above. First DD is introduced as a proper name.
>>>> But later it is used in the phrase "no emulated DD" where the rules
>>>> of the language require a generic name.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *This of this as an axiom schema*
>>> No DD correctly emulated by any HHH can possibly
>>> reach its final halt state. This conclusively
>>> proves that every HHH is correct to reject its
>>> input DD as non-halting.
>>
>> That cannot be used as a schema before you specify what symbols in it are
>> placeholders and what replacements can be used for the placeholders.
>>
> 
> I have gone over this many hundreds of times
> do you not remember anything that I already said?
> 
> int DD()
> {
>    int Halt_Status = EEE(DD);
>    if (Halt_Status)
>      HERE: goto HERE;
>    return Halt_Status;
> }
> 
> When each element of the set of x86 emulators
> named EEE 

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