Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Halting Problem: How my refutation differs to Peter Olcott's Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 08:37:38 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <3bc01824e1d95a30b9784942a8b7ef3bc9ec8ff8@i2pn2.org> <445621fd6d6864f68b1c6e2040cff818c336600f@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 09:37:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c9b9500fbbca16233fc3a49bed1da056"; logging-data="1037505"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/wiXK+P/3uaH5nm7YHfjfoASCT3JpqmAZHpX7lMf3C4Q==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:oeuqcSYFdEjaeA5DvG4wj7l9lNk= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB On 12/05/2025 08:19, Mikko wrote: > That is contradicto in adiecto: a refertial dependncy between > two entities of different categories cannot be > self-referential. An entity can have a self-referential > dependncy only to itself and it is always of the same category > as it is itself. I won't contradict you, but descent parsing comes to mind, where expr() calls term(), term() calls fact(), and fact() calls expr(). It certainly smells self-referential, albeit at arm's length. Do you see my point? -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within