Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 01:28:21 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <1irOP.851750$d51.585824@fx46.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 03:28:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="10e605fecef085a1d5673fe110021a1d"; logging-data="2957803"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX188CquxJX62uHMYv76QoUWJ" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7oMO5/3bwJVd4OTPNLpyIfZf14k= On 2025-04-24, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-04-24 09:31, Borax Man wrote: >> On 2025-04-24, RonB wrote: >>> On 2025-04-23, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> By GNOME 50 next year upstream could completely remove its X11 session >>>> support. >>> >>> Fortunately I can choose something NOT Fedora. If they go through with this, >>> adios Fedora on the laptop I never use. >>> >>> Non-problem solved. >>> >> This was one of the reasons I left Fedora and went to Debian. I had >> been tired of the frequent release cycle, and some of the politics, but >> the fact they would be earlier than other distros in deprecating X11 >> pushed me to Debian. Nothing against Wayland per-se, but it breaks some >> X applications, and my Window Manager. >> >> The "developers" today are terrible, constantly breaking everything all >> the time. How they feel it is acceptable to constantly break peoples >> workflows is beyond me. Sheer arrogance. > > I went to Ubuntu specifically because I wanted Wayland (for touchpad > gestures) and a proper support for the NVIDIA proprietary driver. The > only issues I have are that the audio becomes distorted when using > speakers and an external _if_ I play a game in Heroic Games Launcher > (but there's no reason to believe it's Wayland anyway since the problem > does not occur if I don't use an external monitor or speakers) and I > can't add a bookmark directly into the sidebar in Brave (it could be a > Brave issue but it doesn't occur in the same version of Brave used on > Cinnamon and X11). Other than that, it's better in every way. Not for me it isn't. But that's the good thing about Linux. Lots of choices. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien