Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 06:11:05 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 07:11:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6985d97c0ee12080e7b93a3aa7ef3914"; logging-data="1710922"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/LZ5RNKRV2wfiyx4Z3D5AeIsX7u+QRkRGcPtkxDPZETA==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:LfoDL503A3OuH/2t838Zg6wVotg= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB On 13/05/2025 03:01, olcott wrote: > If the Goldbach conjecture is true (and there is > no short-cut) We don't know that. Fermat's Last Theorem had a short cut, but it took 358 years to find it. At that rate, we won't find Goldbach's short cut (if it has one) for another 75 years. > this requires testing against every > element of the set of natural numbers an infinite > computation. Only if it's true. So if it's true, the testing program will never halt. But if it's false, the tester will eventually find the counter-example, print it, and stop. So a program that can tell whether another program will halt can tell us whether Goldbach's conjecture is true. It would be the short cut that you say doesn't exist. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within