Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 17:47:56 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 67 Message-ID: References: <87v7q5n3sc.fsf@bsb.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 00:48:00 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="43745e07502355f27fac5eed8a7d2487"; logging-data="1424971"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX192kZdfNL3EBV9FhAwGqtCv" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Zx9ggl4cGy5jeMSy4gBIEVXZzJ8= Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250512-4, 5/12/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: On 5/12/2025 5:38 PM, Andy Walker wrote: > On 12/05/2025 18:21, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> I have tired to suggest that everyone simply stop replying to PO.  He >> does not want to be right, he wants the attention and after a final >> flurry of insulting posts he would probably go elsewhere. > >     I too have tried that suggestion.  But no, every obsessive poster > here seems to think that they have a killer argument that will finally > persuade Peter that he is wrong.  Repeated claims of stupidity, lying, > and so on does nothing to lower the temperature.  You would think that > bashing ones head against a brick wall 20+ times/day would eventually > lead to enlightenment, but no, it seems instead to lead to even greater > determination not to be the poster who simply stops. > >     Personally, I kf articles of more than 100 lines and some of the > most prolific posters, and also don't bother to read any article which > fails to grab my attention on the first screenful [kudos to RichardH for > being one of very few posters to snip appropriately].  That, at least, > makes the group readable.  I hope someone will wake me up if there is > ever any actual progress made.  Some hope!  Sadly, it seems more likely > that two or more posters will discover the joys of AI and set their > computer to auto-reply semi-intelligently to each and every post. > >     [For all I know, that's how PO already operates and he is not the > sad misguided attention-seeking person that most here seem to assume, but > is instead running a vast psychological experiment to see how far he can > push his LLM before anyone (other than our resident penguin) notices.] > I am only "wrong" when you so strongly presume that I must be wrong that you don't bother to pay 100% complete attention to the exact meaning of my words. Introduction to the Theory of Computation 3rd Edition by Michael Sipser (Author) 4.4 out of 5 stars 568 rating https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Theory-Computation-Michael-Sipser/dp/113318779X int DD() { int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); if (Halt_Status) HERE: goto HERE; return Halt_Status; } DD correctly simulated by any pure simulator named HHH cannot possibly terminate thus proving that this criteria has been met: If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted then H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. *its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted* only has one meaning. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer