Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Casanova Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: The status of ID and a personal reflection Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 16:06:39 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="81463"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:2npURVIDjULHshL0gDB1tYGFE+w= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 69F2E22978C; Wed, 26 Feb 2025 18:06:51 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37E3D229783 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2025 18:06:49 -0500 (EST) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1tnQUF-000000010nw-3tDu; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 00:06:44 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80A5B6061D for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2025 23:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/80A5B6061D; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=buzz.off id 403B2DC01CA; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 00:06:41 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 00:06:41 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18LgzGiTLKj8QYOqvo1ib126Bi7vKy3/OwVi0rZdSro6lFP1jpj0v9Y HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 17:41:22 +0000, the following appeared in talk.origins, posted by Martin Harran : >On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 22:24:23 +1100, MarkE wrote: > >[...] > >>As I said, "This post is not an opportunity to dive down the hundred >>rabbit holes that this overview touches on." The micro/macro question is >>_the_ evolution debate. >> > >Simply clarifying whether you accept that humans are members of the >ape family, all evolved from a common ancestor, or whether you think >humans were created separately as a standalone species doesn't involve >any rabbit holes. > Of course it doesn't. If this discussion were a football game (US type), he'd be a star receiver; he can weave and dodge with the best of them. (Still waiting for that info regarding the "Increased traction" for ID...) > -- Bob C. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov