Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 19:56:39 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 70 Message-ID: References: <78103fcc08b60687e9f0939fbc4730742fad495d@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 02:56:40 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f774896c05da03d2a2f11555a920a204"; logging-data="4092969"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+QsNxqo7tUF4zJdxqh5m8e" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ywRJsKGIXY6AADvmJqUerVmE3a0= In-Reply-To: <78103fcc08b60687e9f0939fbc4730742fad495d@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250228-8, 2/28/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US On 2/28/2025 8:30 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 2/27/25 11:20 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 2/27/2025 7:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 2/27/25 2:06 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 2/27/2025 3:36 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>> Op 27.feb.2025 om 05:40 schreef olcott: >>>>>> On 2/26/2025 9:52 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>> Am Wed, 26 Feb 2025 08:49:42 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>> On 2/26/2025 3:48 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>> Op 26.feb.2025 om 05:50 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>>> On 2/25/2025 10:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You already know that you are stupidly wrong about the >>>>>>>>>> emulation being >>>>>>>>>> incorrect or you would have provided the correct emulation >>>>>>>>>> sequence >>>>>>>>>> long ago. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What are the first 15 lines of DD correctly emulated by HHH? >>>>>>>>> The error in the simulation occurs already at the 5th >>>>>>>>> instruction, the >>>>>>>>> 'call 000015c3'. Instead of simulating this instruction, >>>>>>>> What are the correct first 15 lines of DD emulated by HHH. >>>>>> >>>>>>> There can be no correct continuation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I say what the correct simulation is. >>>>>> You say that I am wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I am wrong then a correct simulation must exist. >>>>> >>>>> HHH1 did a correct simulation, so, there it is. >>>>> >>>> >>>> That dishonestly dodged the original question: >>>> What are the first 15 *lines of DD* correctly emulated by HHH? >>>> >>>> _DD() >>>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping >>>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping >>>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local >>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD >>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) >>>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04 >>>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax >>>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 >>>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f >>>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d >>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04] >>>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp >>>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp >>>> [00002155] c3         ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> PROBLEM BLOWS UP as the value of memory 000015c3 isn't specified as part >> >> When you are told that this address specifies an >> x86 emulator then disagreement is incorrect. >> > Isw ee are told it has a x86 emulatolr, See this post DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer