Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Food Prices Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 13:45:06 -0700 Lines: 86 Message-ID: <5mom3kdv89tancag2vtsj5q3afesgtmuii@4ax.com> References: <1012ba8$24gfr$1@dont-email.me> <8iu93k91n3k4t6r5grinodq7itl12sqtbd@4ax.com> <94ef3klt885463tnmd10vol2p7kq0t3m5d@4ax.com> <388_P.517727$qmJf.384646@fx16.iad> <9s3i3kpa35sms6shmnmk72riietr58t90c@4ax.com> <101cpp8$ikb2$7@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net T3qSxNf9GDwBOx5RUftduA2iGI0WU499mKq3muBe9k2ntgj5JD Cancel-Lock: sha1:w4vOyBrX0KJgEMkRP+9JrxlcNaE= sha256:leLuvvWoGOLYCXRHfcZoyiYQsGbEMmEBT/ZlKq174uQ= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 On Sat, 31 May 2025 19:41:34 GMT, cyclintom wrote: >On Fri May 30 13:27:04 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 5/30/2025 11:19 AM, cyclintom wrote: >> > ... we now know that 74% of people taking the vaccine suffered permanent >> heart damage ... >> >> Fascinating! And your source for that factoid is ... ??? > > > > >Frank, it is very difficult to discover the actual paper since Fauci made sure that side effects were blamed almost entirelu on Covid-19 rather than the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines. you have to look for it and you have no intensions of doing that. You, like most teachers want others to do your thinking for you. > >How is it possible for every "study" out of the FDA to claim no increased risk with mRNA "vaccines" and every medical study since Fauci was forcibly retired to show the cause of 10-20% increased death rates to be focuseed on mRNA GMO's? > >Increased deaths aren't the only problem but wildly increased multiple cause illnesses wirh permanent injuries. Most especially in young men from 19-24 suggesting an interaction with testosterone. > >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34921468/ That's what is known as a "survey". There is no actual testing being performed. Instead, the results of multiple publications are filtered and tabulated to produce the data for analysis. Access to the entire report is blocked by a paywall. "We systematically searched PubMed, Scopus, Web of Science, and Google Scholar, as well as the medRxiv preprint server, with terms including: ‘SARS-CoV-2’, ‘COVID-19’, ‘messenger RNA vaccine*’, ‘mRNA-1273 vaccine’, ‘BNT162 vaccine’, ‘myocarditis’, ‘pericarditis’, ‘stroke’ and ‘Myocardial Ischemia’ up to 25 September 2021." Without access to the original report, I can't determine if the data was likely to be valid or if it was tweaked to conform to an agenda. Here's the list of 5 sources along with a list of keywords (supporting information): The survey was published on Dec 17, 2021. Presumably, that data from the various sources was collect earlier. My GUESS(tm) is at least 6 months earlier and possibly a year earlier. I'll be generous and use 6 months or mid-June 2021. The first vaccines were available for general consumption in Dec 2020: "History of COVID-19: Outbreaks and vaccine timeline" That means that the data used covered Dec 2020 thru June 2021, which is a 7 month period. That's not too horrible for early research, but hardly evidence of a problem that affected 100% of those tested. >One of the vaaccines on the second shot had 100% chest pains. How did you know it was the 2nd shot? It was not mentioned in your PubMed abstract. Did you pay for the download of the full report? > As a question, why are you arguing about this unless all you want to do is claim that I am wrong? Frank can answer with his point of view, but that is exactly why I'm responding. Also, I don't argue. I just provide evidence that your wrong. If I can't do that, usually do to lack of information, I use logic and speculation. >With multiple injections the chances of side effects multiply and there is NO detectable protection from covid-19. Even during Fauci's time the papers all showed next to no protection at all from infection with covid-19. And most papers showed NO side effects from contracting the disease and getting well from it. Everyone that had "long covid" had been given the jab. Since you like survey reports: (Feb 1, 2023) "Effect of covid-19 vaccination on long covid: systematic review" "Current studies suggest that covid-19 vaccines might have protective and therapeutic effects on long covid. More robust comparative observational studies and trials are needed, however, to clearly determine the effectiveness of vaccines in preventing and treating long covid." >I spent 50 years working on medical devices or laboratory devices designed to detect diseases. Be very sure that you show that as a teacher you know far more about it than I do. No you didn't. You online resume says otherwise. You spent 30 years writing code: I need to finish cleaning and waxing my Subaru. Have a nice day. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558