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On 06/22/2024 09:13 PM, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 6/22/24 9:54 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>> Paul Anderson, thanks for the pdf. Your formula employs the
>> electromagnetic assumption that gravity moves at the speed of light.
>
> You got this backwards. In GR, changes in gravity propagate at the local
> symmetry speed, given by SPECIAL Relativity. It "just so happens" [#]
> that electromagnetic waves travel at this same speed in vacuum. It is
> merely an historical anomaly that it is called "the speed of light", due
> to the round-about way Einstein first described relativity in 1905 --
> the spacetime symmetry is MUCH more fundamental and important.
>
>      [#] This is neither happenstance nor accident....
>
> BTW modern derivations of SR don't use electromagnetism at all.
>
>> Your formula (1) has c^2 and it is clearly not 1^2, and is in m/s,
>> contrary to Lodder.
>
> Nope. YOU have imposed specific units onto the formula/equation. The
> equation itself does not impose any particular units on its variables
> and constants [@], it merely requires that they be self-consistent.
>
>      [@] There are many systems of units in common use. You
>      seem to think there is only one.
>
>> Relativity still thinks gravity is electromagnetism even after the
>> unified field theory failed.
>
> Making stuff up and pretending it is true is USELESS. Grow up!
>
> Tom Roberts


Reading about usual retarded and non-classical advanced potentials,
or Wheeler-Feynman and about Feynman saying "hey there's an invariance
or symmetry if you will here that does indicate a sort of standing
tension where electromagnetic waves live", gets into that much like
gravity, this sort of infinite-advanced-standing-wave concept
that has been arrived at by forefront physicists, requires a
super-classical approach, first mathematically, because without
the mathematics of these kinds things, there's no language thus
no physics of these kinds things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler%E2%80%93Feynman_absorber_theory


"The theory postulates no independent electromagnetic field."

"Wheeler and Feynman postulate the "universe" of all other
electrons as an absorber of radiation ...."


I.e., whatever points from zero to one, there's
its inverse, space inversion.

Then, the arrow of time is just fine,
only that there's some sort of total field theory,
about both gravity, and, the propagation of EM waves.