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From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: West Virginia creationism
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 23:50:54 -0400
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On Wed, 15 May 2024 09:10:27 -0400, Ron Dean
<rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:

>Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:35:56 -0400, Ron Dean
>> <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Martin Harran wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 10 May 2024 16:40:15 -0400, Ron Dean
>>>> <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Burkhard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>>> In fact, your opening gambit is directly expressed in the Bible: =
Judges
>>>>>> 10:16 or Ecclesiastes 3:19: "For what happens to the children of =
man and
>>>>>> what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the =
other.
>>>>>> They all have the same breath"
>>>>>>
>>>>> I question that. But this is Old Testament which Christians turn to=
 for
>>>>> back ground,  but the Old Covenant contained in the Old Testament =
was
>>>>> like a contract which was fulfilled by Jesus Christ and set aside. =
The
>>>>> new Convent contained in the New Testament is the one Christians =
are under.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still waiting for you to explain how you get from a God =
twiddling
>>>> with molecules and DNA to a God with whom we can have a personal
>>>> relationship; the type of God defined in both the Old and New
>>>> Testament; the same type of God defined by Stephen Meyer, one of the
>>>> most prominent proponents of ID, in his book 'Return of the God
>>>> Hypothesis'.
>>>>
>>> Not my call!
>>=20
>> In other words, you can't. You appear to be in good company, none of
>> the leading proponents of ID seem able to explain it either.
>>=20
>There are no ID proponent on TO, that I see just me. Due in insults,=20
>castigation and character assassination, ID proponents are quick to=20
>leave TO. Except me,  so far I've been able to overlook it.


To be accurate, so far YOU have been able to practice baseless
insults, castigation, and character assassination.

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