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Subject: Re: Modeling the origins of life: New evidence for an 'RNA World'
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Richmond used his keyboard to write :
> j.nobel.daggett@gmail.com (LDagget) writes:
>
>> Richmond wrote:
>> 
>>> John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> JTEM has his own vocabulary. By "evolution" he means the modern
>>>> synthesis, also called (which JTEM would detest) neoDarwinism. What he
>>>> seeks to attach Darwin's name to is Lysenkoism or neoLamarckism. If
>>>> you make all those switches what he says is more or less correct.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure whether Mao or the CCP adopted Lysenkoism, but it doesn't
>>>> seem out of the question.
>>>> 
>> 
>>> The phrase "survival of the fittest" has always seemed suspect to me. We
>>> hear it repeated to justify capitalism. But there isn't any requirement
>>> to be 'fit' as far as I can see. There is only a requirement (for genes)
>>> to survive. For example the camel which sits on the calf of its rival
>>> and crushes it to death, or the chimpanzee which kills and eats the
>>> infant offspring of its rivals. In what way is it 'fit'? A biologist
>>> would define it as merely fit to survive, but then the phrase becomes
>>> redundant as survival of the survivor. And we see the same results in
>>> captialism with corporations swallowing up rivals rather than competing
>>> with them.
>> 
>> You want to argue against a metaphor by considering it literally.
>
> It's not a metaphor.

It's a misquote, or rather a misattribution.