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From: Mark Isaak <specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net>
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Subject: Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 07:49:18 -0700
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On 3/25/24 1:13 PM, Richmond wrote:
> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> On 11/03/2024 17:14, Richmond wrote:
>>> Ernest Major <{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>>> [Origin of "The Matrix"]
>>>> I interpreted wiktionary as saying the sense 11 was a new
>>>> sense inspired by the film - so clearly not the meaning that inspired
>>>> the choice of the title for the film.
>>> Maybe, but it cites 1984, William Gibson, Neuromancer, for sense 11,
>>> so
>>> such a sense must have existed before 1999.
>>
>> It may have been mentioned, possibly by me,
>> that _Doctor Who_ story "The Deadly Assassin"
>> in 1976 presented "The Matrix", a computer
>> which contains memories of the Doctor's people,
>> "Time Lords".  It's experienced as a rather
>> dangerous "virtual reality".
>>
>> William Gibson used "matrix" for - what being
>> inside the internet looks like, basically.
>> A space in which most online resources have a
>> visual representation, and you fly around
>> (virtually) like Superman to get to the data
>> that you want to deal with.
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer>
>> mentions that Gibson's short story
>> "Burning Chrome" used the term in 1982.
>> "Burning" is story slang for hacking, and Chrome
>> is a person in the story whose money, not
>> personality, is under attack.
> 
> Another example of Gnostic ideas resurfacing in popular culture is
> 'Forbidden Planet'. The surface of the planet has a small settlement
> with only two people, some animals, and a robot. This surface settlement
> represents consciousness. But hidden beneath it is something vast, and
> from which the powers of creation come (the unconscious). And demons
> which lurk there are projected onto the outside world, the planet
> surface outside the settlement.
> 
> If the settlement corresponds to the island in The Tempest, then the
> vast space under the planet surface represents the ocean around the
> island. Water is the symbol of the unconscious in mythology.
> 
> Why is it necessary to have mythology to understand things? Because
> mythology points to things which cannot be described in words. All words
> have opposites and so cause division. This is shown by this newsgroup
> which is doomed to polarised arguments for all eternity.

Nitpick: Not all words have opposites; probably most do not. (E.g., what 
is the opposite of "broccoli"?, of "modem"?, of "scissors"?) What words 
do, which I think supports your point at least as well, is corral ideas 
into discrete categories.

-- 
Mark Isaak
"Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That
doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell