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From: Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
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Subject: Re: OT: The "vaccine" that just keeps on giving.
Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 08:46:53 -0400
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On 2024-05-27 8:17 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-05-26 3:17 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 May 2024 12:11:14 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote
>>> in <v2vmv3$3fc8e$4@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-05-26 11:54 a.m., DFS wrote:
>>>>> On 5/25/2024 5:57 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>> That's how you know it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-30-year-old-pga-golfer-dies-after-suddenly-pulling-out-of-tournament-due-to-illness>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Grayson Murray's parents confirm he 'took his own life'"
>>>>
>>>> Then I wonder what the illness was. It's a sad thing to see such a young
>>>> man condemn himself to Hell through suicide.
>>>
>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> You should consider why you would think such a hateful thing,
>>> and if you're honest with yourself, be ashamed.
>>
>> Catholic teaching is clear about the consequences of suicide or
>> euthanasia. I also don't believe that the people who advocate for
>> abortion and simultaneously think that euthanasia or suicide is neat
>> have any kind of grasp on morality.
> 
> But Catholicism also teaches us not to judge whether someone is damned or
> not — that's up to God. For a sin to be mortal it requires that it be a
> grave matter (check), with full knowledge and deliberate consent. Grayson
> Murray was a Christian, but I don't know if he was Catholic (and even if he
> was Catholic, Vatican II Catholicism does a terrible job of teaching the
> doctrines of the Faith now). It's questionable whether he had full knowledge
> and deliberately consented to what he might not have known was a mortal sin.
> And, if he suffered mental health issues, it's questionable whether he was
> even able to give deliberate consent with full knowledge. If you have mental
> health issues you're probably not going to be able to think clearly about
> the consequences of your actions.
> 
> I would definitely pray for his soul. God is not a legalistic Pharisee.
> 
> As for the "damnation doctrine" being "spiritual terrorism," it's actually
> not. It's how people become cognizant to the fact that there are
> consequences for their evil actions. Without justice there can be no mercy.
> And mercy is not hard to obtain. It does require humility, however. The
> cardinal sin of Satan was pride.

I'm not judging him for his act; I'm simply pointing out that it was a 
bad one considering what the consequences are. What I am most interested 
in discovering is what his illness was, and whether it was something 
brought on by a certain "safe and effective" product.

-- 
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.