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On 3/8/24 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <usgcnh$2022l$3@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/7/24 5:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <17ba9b03ee0e9624$13863$3298354$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>    moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/7/2024 4:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <usd4m9$17bvi$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Smithee <alms@last.inc>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/07/2024 01:42 PM, EGK wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:59:02 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/03/rust-movie-armorer-guilty-shooting-death-1
>>>>>>>> 23
>>>>>>>> 5847983/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Classic example of shit rolling downhill and our two-tiered justice
>>>>>>> system. Baldwin is "loose" with weapons on the set and he fires the
>>>>>>> fatal shot but because he hired a young and very inexperienced armorer,
>>>>>>> she ends up being the perfect scapegoat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you watch the trial yesterday? She was quoted as saying she could
>>>>>> not be responsible for everyone on the set. Even tho it is her job to be
>>>>>> responsible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Baldwin should be held accountable, but he will likely walk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once upon a time, I spent an afternoon on the CSI:HORATIO set as a
>>>>> technical advisor (the episode dealt with counterfeit currency and they
>>>>> took none of my advice regarding how what they were doing wasn't
>>>>> accurate in any way), and in every scene with guns, as soon as they
>>>>> yelled cut, the armorer zipped in and took everyone's pistols and put
>>>>> them on a table over in the corner of the sound stage. He stood watch
>>>>> over them until the resets were done and they were ready to go again,
>>>>> then he handed them all back out again.**
>>>>>
>>>>> (I do not know if there was a separate sunglass wrangler for David
>>>>> Caruso.)
>>>>>
>>>>> **The armorer guy went white as a sheet near the end of the day when it
>>>>> came to his attention that I'd been sitting on set all afternoon with an
>>>>> actual loaded handgun under my suit coat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on what I saw that day and how firearms are treated on set by a
>>>>> responsible armorer, Baldwin should never have been playing around with
>>>>> a gun outside of an actual filmed scene, and certainly shouldn't have
>>>>> been pointing it at people. What possible reason could he have had for
>>>>> pointing it at the director and the DP?
>>>>
>>>> Was he not rehearsing a scene that called for him to point the gun at
>>>> the camera and then to "fire"? If he was, then I can buy that he did no
>>>> worse than most movie actors would've.
>>>
>>> Another thing the CSI folks had were dummy guns for such rehearsals. Big
>>> hunks of brightly-colored plastic that are shaped like handguns.
>>>
>>> E.g.:
>>>
>>> https://www.securityprousa.com/collections/training-guns
>>>
>>> They used those for rehearsals and only brought out the real guns for an
>>> actual take. Even in the actual take, only the people whose guns needed
>>> to cycle for realism were given real firearms. Everyone else had black
>>> painted gun replicas that were nothing but solid pieces of plastic. They
>>> looked real on camera but had no ability to shoot anything.
>>>
>> Then go and try THAT case, because it has nothing to do with THIS one.
> 
> It shows that compared to other productions in the same industry, this
> movie was playing fast and loose with safety.


Great point: don't play fast and loose on movie sets kids.  There's a 
t-shirt right there.