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On 3/30/2024 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2024 at 7:35:37 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/30/2024 4:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>   In article <uu9d90$1363u$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>   
>>>>   Your side is banning words, and banning books, and banning curriculum
>>>>   there, Sparky.
>>>   
>>>   Oh, don't worry. You hypocritical lefties will ban books in a heartbeat
>>>   if they don't meet your ideological rigor:
>>>   
>>>>   An online bookstore that advertised itself as being committed to sharing
>>>>   ideas, even those which are deemed controversial, has removed titles from
>>>>   conservative authors amid backlash.
>>>>
>>>>   Television host and activist RuPaul is a co-founder of the "all-inclusive"
>>>>   online bookstore Allstora, according to National Review. He started the
>>>>   online store with LGBTQ advocate and author Eric Cervini and drag performer
>>>>   Adam Powell.
>>>>
>>>>   The site advertised that they would carry titles from authors of all points
>>>>   of view, and books for sale on the site initially ranged from Adolf Hitler's
>>>>   "Mein Kampf" to the graphic, controversial coming-of-age book "Gender
>>>> Queer".
>>>>
>>>>   "We're a marketplace for all books and all stories, with a focus on
>>>> elevating
>>>>   marginalized voices," the site originally touted, according to NR. "You may
>>>>   find books you disagree with," a pop-up ad warned, while the FAQ page said,
>>>>   "Allstora has made the decision to carry all books" and "censorship of any
>>>>   book, perspective, or story is incompatible with the survival of democracy."
>>>>
>>>>   "Banning books is never the answer," the site's messaging, which has since
>>>>   been deleted, said, according to The Mary Sue. "We cannot fight the
>>>>   ideologies of hate if we lack the ability to study, understand, and react to
>>>>   them. We do that by reading books."
>>>>
>>>>   However, left-wing activists were outraged that Allstora offered titles by
>>>>   Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Matt Walsh, Riley Gaines, and Libs of TikTok
>>>> founder
>>>>   Chaya Raichik, among others. At first, the website's founders attempted to
>>>>   diffuse tension by promising to create "a community-led flagging system for
>>>>   titles that are contrary to our core values and donating all proceeds from
>>>>   these titles to fight book bans," National Review noted.
>>>>
>>>>   But that wasn't enough. After three days of critics railing against Allstora
>>>>   for selling "homophobic", "transphobic", "anti-woke", and "Nazi" books, the
>>>>   founders relented and removed all free speech messaging from the page. Many
>>>>   works by conservative authors were removed from the page, while some other
>>>>   titles remained available.
>>>>
>>>>   The drama comes on the heels of RuPaul announcing a "Rainbow Book Bus" that
>>>>   seeks to distribute "diverse books to communities facing book bans and
>>>>   censorship, especially in LGBTQ+ communities". The bus will embark on a
>>>> cross
>>>>   country tour later this year, the DRAG RACE host told People during an
>>>>   interview this month.
>>>   
>>>   And you've got a lotta balls condemning Republicans for 'banning words'.
>>>   You guys are the ultimate language police.
>>>   
>>>   First it was 'illegal alien' that was banned in favor of 'undocumented
>>>   immigrant', then that was too "othering", so we couldn't say that any
>>>   more either. Now it's 'pre-citizen', but I'm sure even that will be
>>>   decried as 'stigmatizing' at some point. Hell, the latino grievance
>>>   groups have even declared that calling someone a 'Mexican' is racist,
>>>   even if they are a Mexican citizen from Mexico.
>>>   
>>>   Then there's 'gangs' and 'thug'. Not allowed to say them anymore because
>>>   they 'stigmatize' blacks and latinos. Which forces good little progs to
>>>   beclown themselves like Newsom did during a press conference about gang
>>>   violence where he refused to say the word 'gang' and instead was
>>>   thoroughly mocked for bowing to the prog mob and calling them 'groups of
>>>   folks'.
>>>   
>>>   And there's all the words that are no longer allowed because the troons
>>>   get worked up over them, like "mother". The leftist government currently
>>>   in power has banned that horrible term in favor of "birthing person".
>>>   The troons actually want Mother's Day to be renamed Birthing Person Day.
>>>   
>>>   But yeah, you go on and keep whining about Republicans banning words.
>>
>> The tactic you're describing was invented by this guy:
>>
>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz
>>
>> ...a *Conservative* who "advocated use of vocabulary crafted to produce
>> a desired effect; including use of the term 'death tax' instead of
>> 'estate tax', and 'climate change' instead of 'global warming'."
> 
> And? Does that somehow mean leftists aren't the maestros of language
> policing?
> 
> It sure wasn't conservatives at Stanford University that issued a 30-page
> dictionary of all the banned words on campus.

Thought you'd want to know who invented it (and now gripes at it).