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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 03:52:32 -0500
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On 4/7/24 7:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2024 at 4:34:36 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> 
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> Apr 7, 2024 at 11:53:47 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> Sat, 6 Apr 2024 16:17:16 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>
>>>>>>>> You're missing my point. The people who want to impose religion upon
>>>>>>>> civil life want to do so through legislation and the courts, and they
>>>>>>>> have failed at times, succeeded at other times.
>>
>>>>>>> As well they should have.
>>
>>>>>> Laws restricting or making abortion illegal are an example of success in
>>>>>> imposing religion in civil life.
>>
>>>>> Only if you believe it's impossible to believe abortion is murder unless
>>>>> you also believe in religion/god/supernatural etc.
>>
>>>> Unless some state finally got a law passed defining human life beginning
>>>> at conception, then no homicide has taken place. If it's not homicide,
>>>> then it's not murder.
>>
>>> The point is, it doesn't take a belief in a supernatural sky-tyrant for a
>>> state to make the determination that life begins at conception.
>>
>> HUMAN life
> 
> Doesn't change anything. No belief in supernatural ghosts is required for a
> legislature to make that determination.


What about preternatural ghosts Mr. Redundant?


>> Since common law, an unborn child cannot inherit, and only a child born
>> alive inherits. No one recognized that human life began at conception.
>> It was never the law.
> 
> That doesn't mean the law can't change absent a belief in Quetzalcoatl.
> 
>