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On 4/25/24 2:51 PM, super70s wrote:
> On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said:
> 
>> On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" 
>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to 
>>>>>>> the jaw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead 
>>>>>> Barney &
>>>>>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews"
>>>>>
>>>>> They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
>>>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"?
>>>>>
>>>>> She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
>>>>> her own hood.
>>>>
>>>> What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they 
>>>> demand their
>>>> target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec
>>>> Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".
>>>>
>>>> Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If 
>>>> you're a
>>>> normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in 
>>>> making him
>>>> say it?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
>>> just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
>>> but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
>>> phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
>>> use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
>>> Palestine!"
>>>
>>>> Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it 
>>>> because you
>>>> have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll 
>>>> go away if
>>>> he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he
>>>> believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just 
>>>> repeating a
>>>> phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? 
>>>> What does
>>>> that accomplish? What's the point?
>>>
>>> The clicks are all that matters.
>>>
>>>> They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst 
>>>> into
>>>> restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that 
>>>> they say
>>>> "black lives matter".
>>>
>>> My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
>>> would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
>>> their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
>>> the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.
>>>
>>>> Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every 
>>>> situation. It
>>>> seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. 
>>>> You *must*
>>>> say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not.
>>>>
>>>> Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost
>>>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power 
>>>> over you.
>>>> If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any 
>>>> power over
>>>> you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because 
>>>> they've
>>>> scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line 
>>>> evidence
>>>> of the power they wield.
>>>
>>> Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
>>> feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
>>> their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
>>> war.
>>
>> I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists".
> 
> I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing 
> "ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly.


Probably supplied him with loofahs too.


>> Regardless, I think the idea is that you'll be filmed either "cowering 
>> and caving to the truth" or "unable even to utter the words".
>