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From: Ron Dean <rondean-noreply@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce!
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:34:37 -0400
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Martin Harran wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:06:05 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-03-28 16:52:50 +0000, Mark Isaak said:
>>
>>> On 3/26/24 10:29 AM, Ron Dean wrote:
>>>> Mark Isaak wrote:
>>>>> On 3/25/24 10:26 AM, Ron Dean wrote:
>>>>>> Mark Isaak wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/23/24 4:31 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ron Dean <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mark Isaak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [snip
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And what about people for whom theism is their greatest motivator, such
>>>>>>>>>> as Obama bin Laden? Cynicism seems a rational response.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you suggesting that Obama bin Laden is typical of Islam? If so,
>>>>>>>>> you're probably right.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My apologies to Mark as I just Chez Watted this without realizing Mark had
>>>>>>>> originally posted Osama bin Laden and in Ron Dean’s reply Mark’s spelling
>>>>>>>> morphed to Obama bin Laden matching Ron Dean’s spelling. I wonder what that
>>>>>>>> indicates about Ron Dean…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even without the typo, Ron's reply shows that he is grossly bigoted
>>>>>>> against Arabs and Moslems. The typo suggests that Blacks and Democrats
>>>>>>> may be added to the list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here you are so unfair.  It's easy to make accusations and charges
>>>>>> without even attempting to support them. This in and of itself
>>>>>> demonstrates your extreme bias and hatred of anyone with a
>>>>>> point of view, opinion or belief different from yours.
>>>>>
>>>>> The support for your bigotry against Moslems is in your own post, and
>>>>> that bigotry in turn is support for a suggestion of further bigotry. I
>>>>> must admit that I had not considered the intervention of a
>>>>> spell-checker. I have never known a spell-checker, uninvited, to alter
>>>>> text that the user did not type himself.
>>>>>
>>>> I asked a question. "Are you suggesting that Osama bin Laden is typical
>>>> of Islam? If so (if you confirmed) you are probably right". If you
>>>> failed. I placed the burden on you! (Note here I defeated my
>>>> spell-checker)
>>>
>>> Do you honestly not recognize the overt bigotry in what you just
>>> repeated? It is really extremely gross and unforgivable.
>>
>> All the Muslims that I know (all highly educated women, at the moment)
>> are perfectly decent people. All of them would be very insulted to be
>> described as typical of Osama Ben Laden. None of them wear veils. A few
>> years ago there was a student who did wear a veil, but that was only in
>> her second when her husband came to join the institute. In her first
>> year she didn't, and was perfectly happy to have her photo taken (by
>> me) for a seminar series that my wife was organizing. She likewise had
>> nothing in common with Osama Ben Laden.
> 
> The problem is that bigots are generally unable to recognise their own
> bigotry. When Ron Dean says that Osama bin Laden [1] is probably
> typical of Islam, he simply doesn't realise how that shows his bigotry
> towards Islam - I suspect that in his case, like most bigots IME, that
> bigotry is based on total ignorance of the subject about which he is
> bigoted.
 >
I never said he is typical. I asked the question.
> 
> [1] I'm assuming his changing of that to Obama was unintentional
> though I could easily be convinced otherwise.
> 
It was the spell checker. And me not checking after the spell-checker!