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From: snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
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Subject: Re: Security?  What "Security"?
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:20:22 +0100
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yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

> snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> 
> > My pet rock Gordon asserts that every networked device has a backdoor.
> >
>
> Make computing safe again!
> 
> <https://www.spielezar.ch/products/34316-genzo_theme_large_default/the-army-painter-precision-side-cutter.webp>
>
> >
> > Therefore, anything viewable in clear on that device is insecure and the
> > quality of message encryption is moot.
> >
>
> Nobody wants the data cattle to have access to strong encryption.
>

Granted!  

ISTM that a secure payload would need to be encrypted on a stand-alone
machine, air-gapped and never to be connected online. Once encrypted,
the payload would go by sneakernet to a networked machine for onward
transmission.  When the encrypted payload reached its destination it
would once again go by sneakernet to another air-gapped machine for
decryption.  In this way the payload would never be seen in clear on a
networked machine.

To restate in slightly different words:

My pet rock Gordon assumes that every networked device has a back door.
Therefore the pursuit of privacy is futile because anything viewable in
clear on any of those networked devices is observable, regardless of the
quality of encryption used in transmission.

Nice side-cutters, BTW.

-- 
^Ï^.        Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS

My pet rock Gordon eagerly awaits the expected socialist paradise.