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Subject: Re: Bad reporting Hazards to Homeless article
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 19:12:03 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> >Sat, 13 Apr 2024 14:03:55 -0000 (UTC) Adam H. Kerman
> ><ahk@chinet.com>:  
> 
> >>Uptown viaduct fire reminder of hazards to homeless: 'There really
> >>is no peace'
> >>By Caroline Kubzansky and Rebecca Johnson
> >>Chicago Tribune
> >>April 13, 2024 at 5:00 a.m.
> >>https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/04/13/uptown-viaduct-fire-reminder-of-hazards-to-homeless-there-really-is-no-peace/
> >> 
> 
> >>Despite the headline, we learn IN THE THIRD PARAGRAPH that the
> >>hazard in question to other homeless people was from a homeless
> >>woman who, with either reckless disregard or murderous intent, set
> >>her own tent on fire, which led to all the other tents catching
> >>fire fire. Note that one of the homeless men interviewed stated
> >>that the area under the viaduct is usually fried, so there are
> >>fires set repeatedly.  
> 
> >"The area under the viaduct is usually fried": what exactly does that
> >mean? I assume that the area isn't literally fried but I'm not sure
> >what euphemism you're attempting here.  
> 
> It's what the homeless guy said. He meant that other homeless people
> have set fires under that viaduct and there are scorch marks on the
> abutments and sidewalks and underside of the viaduct.
>  
Thanks for clarifying what the guy meant and sorry that I misunderstood
you as saying it in the first place. 

> >>That headline was misleading, and I'd say who set the fire should
> >>have been stated in the first paragraph.  
>  
> >>In paragraph six, the murder of a well-known homeless man (who
> >>walked without disturbing others rather than just sitting in a
> >>doorway) was conflated. But the crime against him was attempted
> >>murder by someone who was not homeless; he was set on fire while
> >>sleeping. It became a murder as he later died of injuries
> >>sustained.  
> 
> >>This was just bad reporting entirely. The danger from homeless
> >>encampments under viaducts is that one or more individuals will set
> >>fires, and fires spread. Gee. Fires can even destroy viaducts. Maybe
> >>allowing "permanent" encampments once people start fires is
> >>horrifically bad public policy.  
> 
> >There was a major fire in a homeless encampment close to the
> >Kitchener and Cambridge boundary. It's a miracle there weren't some
> >fatalities. There's a homeless encampment in Kitchener that is very
> >close to the transit hub that is supposed to be built that has
> >serious problems with rats. The residents have also done significant
> >property damage to nearby businesses. The city and region have tried
> >to evict them but when it went to court, the judge was persuaded
> >that the residents couldn't be evicted because it violated their
> >rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. That case now
> >serves as a precedent for the whole country making it hard to do
> >much about homeless encampments.   
> 
> >Three cheers for our bleeding-heart activist judges: fooey! fooey!
> >fooey!  
> 
> Was that judicial activism or is such a right created in law?



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Rhino