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Subject: Re: RHYBUDD: Daeth yr e-bost hwn o'r tu allan i Brifysgol Abertawe.
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On Wed, 22 May 2024 15:52:35 +0200
Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote:

> Tue, 21 May 2024 11:29:37 -0700: HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb>
> scribeva:
> >             RHYBUDD: Daeth yr e-bost hwn o'r tu allan i Brifysgol 
> >Abertawe. Peidiwch â chlicio ar atodiadau neu agor atodiadau oni bai 
> >eich bod chi'n adnabod yr anfonwr a'ch bod yn gwybod bod y cynnwys yn 
> >ddiogel.
> >______________________
> >
> >         If this (above) were in Irish, i'd have recognized a few words.
> >                            and i'm not seeing ANY resemblance to Irish.
> 
> That’s because it’s Welsh, and they are from different branches of
> Celtic, probably as different as English and Danish, or even English
> and French.
> 
> >                           are  Agor  and  Agus  cognates?
> >                            No!  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/agor
> >
> >but the above text was a complete gibberish to me, and i first fed it to
> >a Rot13 converter (LOL!).
> 
> The spelling is stranger than the actual language. For example, note
> that w and y are used as vowels. C is always k, f is v, ff is f.

(ffi only confusing is that there are two types of 'y' - pronounced
short 'u' and 'short 'i'

Ynysybwl~=unis-u-bool

> 
> >  ---   Next time,  when i see a text in this language,
> >        i'd recognize  [yr] and maybe  [daeth]  and  E-bost  ,
> >
> >                 bod yn,   bod y
> 
> The whole picture of the language is very peculiar, and easy to
> recognize at first glance, once you’ve seen it a few times.

Note that the Hen is attempting to troll xpost into news:soc.culture.irish
(or is genuinely ignorant). 
As you say there are some similarities but also a lot of differences
between P-Celtic and Q-Celtic - it could have looked it up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_languages#Classification




also from the "Brifysgol Abertawe."
it's pshurely clearly from West Wales, not Ireland.

Google translate would have immediately stopped it from this nonsense, but
no.


clear


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Translation results
Translation result
>> WARNING: This email came from outside university 
>> Swansea. Do not click on attachments or open attachments unless 
>> you know the sender and you know that the content is 
>> Safe.




[puzzles dropped]
-- 
Bah, and indeed Humbug.