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Le 19-03-2024, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> a écrit :
> Plus you're implying that the work done by full time UI professionals is 
> bad 

I'm not implying anything. It's clear.

> ... but do you have any credible citations for that?  Cite, please.

Why should I cite anyone? When I'm using my computer, I not asking
anyone how he feels about it. I can see by myself that the GUI designed
by UI professionals are slowing me. So they're bad and it needs to be
changed. I have nobody to cite and I really see no reason why I should.

>> And
>> finely, you can use the time spend by others to start from something
>> almost ready to adapt it easily to your own needs.
>
> That's an argument to go with whoever has the larger marketshare, as 
> they've had the greatest amount of user UI feedback to optimize from.

No. When I want a theme, I can find a few even with a limited market
share. I don't find the exact one that I want, but I can find easily a
close enough one. When I want a way to do something, I can find someone
who needed it before me or something close. Without need of market
share.

>> There's a lot of
>> configuration files and ideas to help you improve your configuration
>> effortlessly.
>
> Still isn't a zero amount of time ... which adds up the more you tweak.

Yes, but the amount of time added is less than the time I would loose by
using a default done by a bad UI designer.

>> So yes, I value my time and my confort. And you didn't gave me anything
>> to mow because your way would make me lost a lot of time and comfort.
>
> Precisely the reason to trust professionals to be closer to offering a 
> more optimal UI.

Nope. I know tools designed by professionals. They are not mean to be
efficient but to be beautiful and use by someone who don't want to learn.

>> When I do something it's useful for a really long time. For example,
>> When I started to learn about tilling Windows Managers, it was with
>> wmii. Then I was able to use a lot of its configuration to switch to
>> i3wm. And then, it was the same with swaywm. So with the lot of
>> similarities between the WM, I used the same shortcuts and I didn't need
>> to learn anything new. For a very few time invested during the years.
>> Unlike Windows, which changed everything with each upgrade and I needed
>> a few months to find my way out each time.
>
> Which for users who don't need to know how to program tiling, but just 
> use the UI, this is relevant...how?

That's exactly my point. Thanks a lot for your support. You really
dismissed my points because you consider they are irrelevant when you
don't understand them.

I'll rephrase it.
You say: "If you value your time, do my way."
I say: "I value my time and your way will slow me and make me lose my
time."
You say: "Your arguments are irrelevant for people who don't like your
way."

And that's where your arguments are garbage. I don't care about the way
the others are using their computers. I care about the way I'm using
mine.

So, when you say: "Do my way because others don't like your way, it's
better for you.", it's just shit.

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