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From: Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net>
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Subject: Re: Maya Angelou died (28-5-2014)
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 Ar an chéad lá de mí Meitheamh, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden: 

 > On 2024-05-31 21:06:53 +0000, Aidan Kehoe said:
 > 
 > >  Ar an t-aonú lá is triochad de mí Bealtaine, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden:
 > >
 > >  > On 2024-05-31 07:50:03 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
 > >  >
 > >  > > On 2024-05-30 18:47:03 +0000, Christian Weisgerber said:
 > >  > >
 > >  > >> On 2024-05-30, Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
 > >  > >>
 > >  > >>>> No. "Cornish" is not a Cornish name: what would be the point of callig
 > >  > >>>> someone Cornish if everyone around is Cornish. The name is much more
 > >  > >>>> common in Devon, just as "Devenish" is more common in Somerset than it
 > >  > >>>> is in Devon.
 > >  > >>>
 > >  > >>> I used to know María Teresa Miras Portugal (until she died): she was
 > >  > >>> Spanish, not Portuguese.
 > >  > >>
 > >  > >> Actress Cécile de France is Belgian.
 > >  > >
 > >  > > Indeed. I didn't think of her, but I knew she was Belgian.
 > >  >
 > >  > An even more prominent example is François Hollande: he is not Dutch, but is
 > >  > French.
 > >
 > > Ian Fleming was also British, not from Flanders.
 > >
 > > Ian Paisley was (and Ian Óg Paisley is) not from Paisley.
 > >
 > > George C. Scott was from West Virginia, not Scotland.
 > >
 > > Neither the actor James Franco nor the deceased caudillo of Spain have any
 > > immediate family background in Franconia, nor even France.
 > >
 > > Percy French, Irish songwriter, was not French by nationality.
 > >
 > > Counterexample; Charles de Gaulle was French, but his name was Dutch.
 > >
 > > Complication; Chester Nimitz was of recent German descent, but had US
 > > nationality; his family name is of Slavic origin but designates a German.
 > >
 > > I’m sure I could (and we could) keep going with these!
 > 
 > As a possible counterexample, what about Deutsch and Deutscher, which seem to
 > be reasonably common surnames in Germany?

https://wiki.genealogy.net/Deutsch_(Familienname) comments:

»Der Name wurde vor allem in Grenzgebieten mit gemischter Bevölkerung gegeben,
später auch jüdischer Name«

I learned for the first time today of Alfred Deutsch-German, an Austrian Jew
who was killed in the Holocaust.

-- 
‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
(C. Moore)