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On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:41:20 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:47:25 -0700, john larkin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
>> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 07:48:46 -0700, john larkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:35:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Jun 2024 06:18:42 -0700) it happened john
>>>>>larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote in
>>>>><9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:53:34 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:00:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/major-chinese-
>>>semiconductor-company-goes-bankrupt-23-others-recently-withdrew-ipo-ap
>>>>>>>>plications
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Good grief. Crazy numbers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>10,000 bankruptcies representing only 1 in 5 start-ups for the year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sounds like a normal ratio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>RL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The idea of any country "registering" 50,000 semiconductor companies
>>>>>>in one year is absurd.  It's the same corrupt fad dynamics as the
>>>>>>Chinese real-estate scam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Communism always becomes savage and corrupt and inefficient.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not see it that way.
>>>>>Making crap and selling it at taxpayers cost is typical US Boing
>>>>>Starliner leaking Helium and has their astronuts stuck in space,
>>>>>... Boing airplanes that fsll apart and killed hundreds.
>>>> 
>>>> Airbus planes have killed people too.
>>>> 
>>>> The two nasty 737 crashes were a combination of bad control system
>>>> desgn and bad piloting, not things falling apart.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>other dangerous products such as vaccins against virusses produced by
>>>>>the same US,
>>>>>worshipping criminals againt humanity like DRRRRR FAUlty it suffers
>>>>>from a milli-tary industrial complex that makes crap noisy shit
>>>>>airplanes that pollute the skies here: F35, an ever raising debt, more
>>>>>than a third world country,
>>>>>a basically 2 party sustem that gives people the worst of both,...
>>>>>A war mongering bunch killing people all over the world Totally
>>>>>corrupt from top to bottom and proud of it.
>>>>>An IQ that gete lower and lower...
>>>>>dolly no longer coupled to gold value, just shit paper.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's really the wrong environment for inventing and developing
>>>>>>electronics.
>>>>>>The US has lots of started-small innovative tech companies, some of
>>>>>>which are world-dominant now. I see a some of that in the UK and
>>>>>>Ireland and a bit in France and the Netherlands.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The sequence matters. Some outfits start with ideas and eventually
>>>>>>make a lot of money. Some start with a heap of invested money, have
>>>>>>no original ideas, and fail.
>>>>>
>>>>>The sequence is that the US empire will soon cease to exist.
>>>>>West coast was always part of China  :-)
>>>>>More info in 'planets of the apes'
>>>>>
>>>>>US hates it own people, puts sanctions on cheap good Chinese products
>>>>>and increases taxes so its war mongering industry has jobs, better
>>>>>just give them the money they steal from the taxpayers directly...
>>>>>Even better have them make products that benefit people.
>>>>>That will save lives worldwide covid makers!!
>>>>>
>>>>>US just an other ant-heap in decline, fire ants at that...
>>>>>
>>>>>Darwin applies, bye bye US, byethen [buythen] and club,
>>>>>Get the fuck out of Europe war mongering shitheads!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> How are your Russian lessons coming along?
>>>
>>>Jan is right about the propensity of the US to go into unnecessary and
>>>unjustifiable conflicts around the world, though.
>> 
>> We should have stayed out of WWI and WWII. The history of europe is
>> millenia of warfare. We should stay out of the current one too.
>
>+1.
>This is what Trump is arguing for and I believe an awful lot of people 
>will find it *very* persuasive.

I wonder what the world would be like today if Germany and Italy and
Japan had won.