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From: Ron Dean <rondean-noreply@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce!
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:39:16 -0400
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Martin Harran wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:34:37 -0400, Ron Dean
> <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:06:05 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>>> <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-28 16:52:50 +0000, Mark Isaak said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/26/24 10:29 AM, Ron Dean wrote:
>>>>>> Mark Isaak wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/25/24 10:26 AM, Ron Dean wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mark Isaak wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/24 4:31 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ron Dean <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Isaak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [snip
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And what about people for whom theism is their greatest motivator, such
>>>>>>>>>>>> as Obama bin Laden? Cynicism seems a rational response.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you suggesting that Obama bin Laden is typical of Islam? If so,
>>>>>>>>>>> you're probably right.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My apologies to Mark as I just Chez Watted this without realizing Mark had
>>>>>>>>>> originally posted Osama bin Laden and in Ron Dean’s reply Mark’s spelling
>>>>>>>>>> morphed to Obama bin Laden matching Ron Dean’s spelling. I wonder what that
>>>>>>>>>> indicates about Ron Dean…
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even without the typo, Ron's reply shows that he is grossly bigoted
>>>>>>>>> against Arabs and Moslems. The typo suggests that Blacks and Democrats
>>>>>>>>> may be added to the list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here you are so unfair.  It's easy to make accusations and charges
>>>>>>>> without even attempting to support them. This in and of itself
>>>>>>>> demonstrates your extreme bias and hatred of anyone with a
>>>>>>>> point of view, opinion or belief different from yours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The support for your bigotry against Moslems is in your own post, and
>>>>>>> that bigotry in turn is support for a suggestion of further bigotry. I
>>>>>>> must admit that I had not considered the intervention of a
>>>>>>> spell-checker. I have never known a spell-checker, uninvited, to alter
>>>>>>> text that the user did not type himself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked a question. "Are you suggesting that Osama bin Laden is typical
>>>>>> of Islam? If so (if you confirmed) you are probably right". If you
>>>>>> failed. I placed the burden on you! (Note here I defeated my
>>>>>> spell-checker)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you honestly not recognize the overt bigotry in what you just
>>>>> repeated? It is really extremely gross and unforgivable.
>>>>
>>>> All the Muslims that I know (all highly educated women, at the moment)
>>>> are perfectly decent people. All of them would be very insulted to be
>>>> described as typical of Osama Ben Laden. None of them wear veils. A few
>>>> years ago there was a student who did wear a veil, but that was only in
>>>> her second when her husband came to join the institute. In her first
>>>> year she didn't, and was perfectly happy to have her photo taken (by
>>>> me) for a seminar series that my wife was organizing. She likewise had
>>>> nothing in common with Osama Ben Laden.
>>>
>>> The problem is that bigots are generally unable to recognise their own
>>> bigotry. When Ron Dean says that Osama bin Laden [1] is probably
>>> typical of Islam, he simply doesn't realise how that shows his bigotry
>>> towards Islam - I suspect that in his case, like most bigots IME, that
>>> bigotry is based on total ignorance of the subject about which he is
>>> bigoted.
>>>
>> I never said he is typical. I asked the question.
> 
> You asked a question and followed it with your own opinion:
> 
> <quote>
> 
> "Are you suggesting that Obama bin Laden is typical of Islam? If so,
> you're probably right."
 >
If so, you're probably right, If not, you are probably right.
> 
> </quote>
> 
>>>
>>> [1] I'm assuming his changing of that to Obama was unintentional
>>> though I could easily be convinced otherwise.
>>>
>> It was the spell checker. And me not checking after the spell-checker!
>