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Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's Battle With OpenAI
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In article <v2vg2l$3eegh$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> On 5/25/24 11:35 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 5/24/24 10:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > 
> >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/ar-BB1mWLqa
> >>>
> >>> Scarlett Johansson's powerful Hollywood agent, Bryan Lourd, wanted 
> >>> answers when he made an urgent call to Sam Altman last week: What do
> >>> you think you're doing?
> >>>
> >>> Altman's artificial intelligence powerhouse, OpenAI, had for months
> >>> unsuccessfully courted Johansson, who memorably voiced an AI assistant
> >>> in the 2013 film HER. Last September, Johansson turned down an offer
> >>> to work with OpenAI and voice a new assistant feature.
> >>>
> >>> Altman didn't give up. In mid-May, he texted Lourd, co-chairman of 
> >>> Creative Artists Agency, asking if Johansson might reconsider-- he
> >>> wanted to show the actress something he'd been working on, people
> >>> familiar with the interaction said. The camps couldn't settle on a
> >>> time to meet. Then on May 13, OpenAI showcased an updated AI system,
> >>> equipped with new voice assistants for its Chat GPT tool, including a
> >>> female named Sky.
> >>>
> >>> Johansson was surprised and angry. She and Lourd thought-- and others 
> >>> agreed-- that Sky's voice sounded "eerily similar" to the actress.
> >>> Lourd and the actress spent the morning fielding calls and emails from
> >>> friends and associates, some of whom worried that OpenAI had simply
> >>> appropriated Johansson's voice without permission.
> >>>
> >>> When Lourd confronted Altman, however, the OpenAI chief executive was
> >>> incredulous. Did they really think the voice sounded like Johansson?
> >>> Was she mad?
> >>>
> >>> So began the most dramatic episode yet in the collision between Hollywood 
> >>> and the exploding world of artificial intelligence.
> >>>
> >>> The emergence of AI as a rapidly advancing and perhaps unstoppable force 
> >>> has sparked deep anxiety in creative industries that for decades have
> >>> been governed by strict rules of how creators are compensated for their
> >>> work. The reason is that the language models that power generative AI
> >>> chat tools are typically made using text, images, music and videos
> >>> hoovered up from across the internet. That can include material that
> >>> is copyrighted, valuable and often paywalled-- like Scarlett Johansson's
> >>> voice.
> >>>
> >>> Johansson-- who just three years ago waged a blistering and public legal
> >>> campaign against Disney-- hired a legal team to demand answers from 
> >>> Altman and OpenAI and issued an excoriating statement.
> >>>
> >>> OpenAI, however, said Sky was never intended to resemble Johansson, and 
> >>> that the company had hired a voice actor who recorded the part before any 
> >>> outreach to Johansson. People close to Altman say he wanted Johansson
> >>> to be involved in the voice project, potentially as an additional voice
> >>> or to promote the product.
> >>>
> >>> OpenAI paused use of the Sky voice on Sunday after receiving legal 
> >>> letters from Johansson's team of representatives. Altman said Monday
> >>> evening in a statement that he apologized for failing to communicate
> >>> better.
> >>>
> >>> Altman has been the most visible face of the AI movement since OpenAI 
> >>> launched ChatGPT in late 2022 and ignited a global frenzy over AI
> >>> technology. He and the company face numerous challenges, including a
> >>> slew of copyright lawsuits and mounting pressure to advance its GPT-4
> >>> technology. It's also trying to move past its leadership crisis from
> >>> last November, when OpenAI's then-board of directors fired Altman for
> >>> failing to be "consistently candid". He was quickly reinstated as CEO.
> >>>
> >>> For performers like Johansson and IP owners, it is hard to prove whether 
> >>> their likeness or content has been misused. Regulations governing the
> >>> systems are scant.
> >>>
> >>> Altman in a speech last year said he and other OpenAI executives were 
> >>> inspired by the 2013 film HER, in which a man falls in love with his AI
> >>> assistant, voiced by Johansson. The company aimed to develop an
> >>> assistant like Apple's Siri or Microsoft's Cortana that users could
> >>> talk to.
> >>>
> >>> Last May, the company sent out a casting call looking for male, female, 
> >>> and nonbinary voices in the 25 to 45 age range. It wanted voices that
> >>> were warm, engaging and charismatic, internal documents reviewed by The
> >>> Wall Street Journal show. "Someone you instantly trust and feel a
> >>> kinship with. Nothing 'put on'."
> >>>
> >>> It whittled down a list of 400 applicants and flew actors to San 
> >>> Francisco last June and July for recording sessions. The actors were
> >>> asked to sign nondisclosure agreements and refrain from providing voice
> >>> recordings to OpenAI's competitors for three years after the product
> >>> launch, the documents show. OpenAI says that the actress who played
> >>> Sky was recording in the studio last July.
> >>
> >> Which is a complete crock of shit.
> >> Wrong again, counselor.
> > 
> > Are you yet again under the impression that I wrote an article that I
> > quoted from the legacy corporate media?
> > 
> > I'm not 'wrong again', Shit Shoes. I didn't say anything here to be wrong
> > about. All I did was post an interesting article about show business in a
> > TV newsgroup.

> You posted Altman's lies.

No, MSN/MSNBC/NBC put his comments in their article. I merely posted the 
article.

> Why didn't you post Altman calling his new AI voice: "Her"?

Because that wasn't in MSN/MSNBC/NBC's article. Are you finally coming 
around to the fact that the corporate legacy media can't be trusted?

Well, to quote a famous Christmas movie, "Welcome to the party, pal."