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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban
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In article <v4t1nu$1ig6v$2@dont-email.me>,
 moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 6/18/2024 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <v4s1kl$1c3jr$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On 6/15/24 8:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> In article <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com>,
> >>>    trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 6/15/24 11:46 AM, moviePig wrote:
> >>>>> On 6/15/2024 4:20 AM, trotsky wrote:
> >>>>>> On 6/14/24 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>> The Federal Firearms Act of 1934
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    From wiki:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The current National Firearms Act (NFA) defines a number of categories
> >>>>>> of regulated firearms. These weapons are collectively known as NFA
> >>>>>> firearms and include the following:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Machine guns
> >>>>>>        "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be 
> >>>>>>   readily
> >>>>>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual
> >>>>>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also
> >>>>>> include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed
> >>>>>> and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed
> >>>>>> and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and
> >>>>>> any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if
> >>>>>> such parts are in the possession or under the control of a 
> >>>>>> person."[10]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, bump-stocks are patently a "workaround" for a law whose intent is
> >>>>> patently obvious. Not exactly a triumph of sanity.
> >>>>
> >>>> "A work around" is accurate. And the spirit of the law is far more
> >>>> important, obviously, than the letter of the law
> >>>
> >>> Oh, cool! I see Hutt the Fuck-Up Fairy has visited us again!
> >>>
> >>> No, Hutt, you're unsurprisingly about as absolutely wrong as you can be
> >>> yet again.
> >>>
> >>> The letter of the law is obviously paramount in the context of
> >>> jurisprudential determination as evidenced by the 1000-page statutes we
> >>> have coming out of Congress, millions of pages of administrative
> >>> regulations, and the multi-page click-thrus of tiny and
> >>> near-hieroglyphic legalese that you have to agree to just to use a piece
> >>> of software.
> >>>
> >>> If all we needed to concern ourselves with was a law's "spirit", then
> >>> none of that would be necessary.
> >>>
> >>> I'd elaborate further but I don't have the time or the crayons to
> >>> explain it to you. Jeezus, Hutt, if I wanted to kill myself, I'd climb
> >>> your ego and jump to your IQ.
> >>>
> >> And how does using a bump stock differ from a fully automatic machine gun?
> > 
> > With a bump stock, for every round fired, a separate trigger pull occurs.
> > 
> > With a machine gun, one one trigger pull is required to fire multiple
> > rounds.
> > 
> > Also, the rate of fire of a bump stock-equipped rifle is significantly
> > slower than a rifle firing on full-auto.
> 
> So, this 15-sec. video is a lie?
> 
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brrecvXhRVc

I don't know what you're talking about. You can clearly see the bump 
device using the recoil (and Newton's Third Law) to reset the trigger 
after every round.