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In article <uu22s3$32lii$2@dont-email.me>,
 "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> 
> >>Last Friday, a Chicago alderman (there are cockroaches with higher social
> >>standing) gave a speech at a rally outside city hall condemning Biden
> >>and support for Israel in the war against Hamas. A veteran had burned a
> >>special American flag
> 
> >Why is it that burning the American flag is protected speech, but if you 
> >burn an Alphabet Mafia rainbow flag, you can get arrested for a hate 
> >crime?
> 
> You mean a flag that does not belong to you, not your own flag.

No, I mean any rainbow flag. If you go buy one yourself, then take it to 
an anti-troon protest and burn it, it's a hate crime.

But if you buy an American flag and take it to an Antifa riot and burn 
it, protected speech.

> In any event, a person of a specific nationality (or perception of
> a specific nationality) is in a protected class in some hate crime
> enhancements. Let's say the flag being burnt was flown on a flagpole
> outside an individual's house who also had a Stand With Israel lawn
> sign. The protestor objected to Biden's pro-Israel stance in the war
> against Hamas. If the victim's flag is burned as part of a campaign of
> harrassment, then yes, it can be argued that he's been subject to a hate
> crime because he refuses to question his own government's foreign
> relations.
> 
> I can see a hate crime enhancement for that although it might be
> difficult to prove unless the criminal said something along the lines
> that he denounces the victim for not rejecting his country.
> 
> I disagree with you.
> 
> >>part of the protest, and there were signs protesting that the Democratic
> >>National Convention (to nominate the president) is being held in Chicago.
> 
> >>The alderman gave his speech in front of the burnt flag. There's plenty
> >>of video showing the flag lying on the pavement next to the alderman.
> 
> >>When the videos were shown and other aldermen expressed horror, he
> >>started denying that he'd given the speech in front of the flag 'cuz
> >>gaslighting always works.
> 
> >They literally deny reality right in front of you and expect you to 
> >believe it.
> 
> Voters in my state do believe!