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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban
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In article <v4llgt$3s90d$1@dont-email.me>,
 moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 6/15/2024 8:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com>,
> >   trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 6/15/24 11:46 AM, moviePig wrote:
> >>> On 6/15/2024 4:20 AM, trotsky wrote:
> >>>> On 6/14/24 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> The Federal Firearms Act of 1934
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   From wiki:
> >>>>
> >>>> The current National Firearms Act (NFA) defines a number of categories
> >>>> of regulated firearms. These weapons are collectively known as NFA
> >>>> firearms and include the following:
> >>>>
> >>>> Machine guns
> >>>>       "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily
> >>>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual
> >>>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also
> >>>> include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed
> >>>> and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed
> >>>> and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and
> >>>> any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if
> >>>> such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person."[10]
> >>>
> >>> So, bump-stocks are patently a "workaround" for a law whose intent is
> >>> patently obvious.  Not exactly a triumph of sanity.
> >>
> >>
> >> "A work around" is accurate. And the spirit of the law is far more
> >> important, obviously, than the letter of the law
> > 
> > Oh, cool! I see Hutt the Fuck-Up Fairy has visited us again!
> > 
> > No, Hutt, you're unsurprisingly about as absolutely wrong as you can be
> > yet again.
> > 
> > The letter of the law is obviously paramount in the context of
> > jurisprudential determination as evidenced by the 1000-page statutes we
> > have coming out of Congress, millions of pages of administrative
> > regulations, and the multi-page click-thrus of tiny and
> > near-hieroglyphic legalese that you have to agree to just to use a piece
> > of software.
> > 
> > If all we needed to concern ourselves with was a law's "spirit", then
> > none of that would be necessary.
> > 
> > I'd elaborate further but I don't have the time or the crayons to
> > explain it to you. Jeezus, Hutt, if I wanted to kill myself, I'd climb
> > your ego and jump to your IQ.
> 
> Unfortunately, your "letter of the law" is a false god, a pipe dream. 
> Because any word's meaning invariably depends on one or more *other* 
> words, and so on ...you eventually need someone to "know" (i.e., to 
> *interpret*) whatever basic thing someone else has tried to say.

Even if true, that doesn't mean a law's "spirit" takes precedence over 
its text.