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 > JAB wrote
 > "What's the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civi
 > Engineers
 >
 > Mechanical Engineers build weapons; Civil Engineers buil
targets.

The term engineer literally means you ar
Liberal ( science ) in terms of creating new ideas
The term technician literally means you are conservative ( arts ) in 
specific task
Most engineers ( like my father ) works as technician, and will submi
ideas ( they do not get thanked for properl
outside of those stupid "Thank you" five dollar checks ).

Civil-Engineering = Construction, like studying Matrix ( Win
resistance X, Y ) or keeping things tall in the wind like
the Statue Of Liberty, The Freedom-Tower/Condanast building
Twin-Towers, Verozani Needle, and more. Oil-riggers for example ar
closer to Civil-Engineering.

High-end = asides for the above mentioned, imagine being in charge o
every worker like a foreman, and being able
to read construction documents, and plan ahead of time. More or les
an architect or designer but you can tell the difference between roc
types, and stones. Want to build a structure with light-up rocks bu
can not be plastic. Is a great example.
Low-end = "This old House"

Mechanical Engineering = Electronics, or the inner workings o
electronics. In order for you to run wires, connect them
with solder, program various electronics like displays, or the inne
workings of a television ( like if the PCB cracks and you
have put every wire back together using googles. Knowing difference i
radio types, or being able to read waves

However = It does not go into the inner workings of Electronics. Lik
creating a battery out of salt, water, and being able to compress tha
in a small format. To even changing the current of the battery 
especially if you have a raid ), To even being able to send curren
back up

High-end = working in a university trying to solve energy problems
Like fast charging devices and batteries
Low-end = Electricians, and people working directly with electrica
units ( like the ones that is clearly storing energy 
or even Car-mechanics are a type of Engineer

Now think about IT ( information technologies ). You have methods tha
are ( arts ) but when machines changes this might require you to tak
exams and further testing, despite you might know the other method
However pushing I
to the side as somebody who puts computers together. You have to b
comfortable enough to do this ( as a job ) and
do it in a timely fashion

That being said while a Mechanical Engineer can move things at a slo
pace, they have a quota to meet. Civil-Enginee
first priority is the safety of the employees. As OSHA could visit an
slow things up via safety concerns.

A Civil Engineer could have a Mechanical engineer, working alongside 
Electrical engineer, with an IT person
But again there are different levels of "POC" ( Power o
Command ). It could become problematic is everybod
is not together. Being a contractor is far problematic then being a
employee, because you will never know if you hav
people who are actually functioning. If you hav
"Civil-Engineer" who is working with construction, then al
of thos
people standing by ( getting paid to move things ) should be ther
responsibility.

Take Statue liberty. ( or any structure 

Civil-Engineer put that together with a team from various trainin
levels
Electrical Engineer run all the wires and possible electrica
scenarios ( imagine leakage when a hole happens ).
Mechanical engineer will run all the wires concerning, communications
security,
Hydroponics engineer will ensure there is water-flow and more the
decent plumbings and have there tea
IT will ensure ( after all the screws and bolts and wires and safety 
will have *automation via Computers
While Computer Programming falls under this, it is spread thin
depending on needs. However sometimes the ol
way works better and is more secured then the newer models presente
to the table

* Now I mention automation. But this could be for anybody els
mentioned because it could mean a variety of things

....................................................

Because many of these people work alongside Maintenance workers,
Security, and lesser trained jobs, many of them do not get the respect
they deserve as it is a blue-collar, brown-collar, white-collar,
cabana-collar scenario. So few people actually function in an ideal
environment and can lead to stressful situations. 

Stereotypical job. Yes there is over-time, but they can be
discrimination. Which is why we have unions you should look for
not the lawyers from the company or organization you work for, but the
union. Be aware many corps like IBM will have Lawyers posing as
pro-union and thus create chaos or reasons to fire people for no
reason. In order to make there hiring and firing ( bob situation )
look normalized.
 

This is a response to the post seen at:
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=669905586#669905586