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On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 20:46:53 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

>I just watched a talk by Anton Zeilinger, professor of physics
>at the university of Vienna, and 2022 Nobel laureate, about
>quantum effects and entanglement.
>
>I feel a rant bubbling up!

Good so far!

>
>The guy is a mystic, a fraud! He pretended to demonstrate that
>light consists of particles by showing a little box that starts
>clicking, like a Geiger counter, when exposed to light. Even if
>the little box really did detect light, that means nothing! Light
>*detection* is quantized, yes, but that does not imply that light
>itself is so too.

Light isn't packaged in discrete photons of measurable energy?

Of course you can't say much about a thing that has never been
detected. It's just a rumor.


>
>He attempted to convince the public that entanglement means that
>the results of measurements made at two remote places come out
>identically, and without any time delay. That's just not true,
>but he didn't even give a hint of how this really works. He did
>not mention that you have to make *correlated* measurements to
>detect entanglement. 

Do people still say "duh" ?

>For that, you need to communicate *what*
>measurement is to be made at each location, and that implies
>that you either prescribe the exact measurement in advance or
>select a subset of the results after the fact. Either way, this
>skews the data.

Most measurements, and the measuring instruments, are defined in
advance of the event.  Calibrated even.

>
>He's in it for the money and the fame. Grrr. And he's one of
>many, too.

That's hardly usual, or a reason to call him wrong. He won the Nobel
Prize just to get free plane tickets.



>
>Jeroen Belleman